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Anabolics Vs. Androgens What's truely need?

magnum u say cycle for atleast 12weeks for best results,but didnt u used to suggest 4 weeks on 4weeks off?thought i read that in a older post.......great read,lets keep it going.
 
i think one of the problems with the ancillary drugs is that almost everyone on boards like this thinks they are a scientist and give these technical sounding explainations as to why after a cycle to take this(insert ancillary here!) then this(insert ancillary here!) then this(insert ancillary here!) because of this(insert wacky semi-scientific expaination) this and this....when i saw a world renouned endocrinologist....he said the medical community does not even have the explainations for these things yet so how does the bathroom chemist juicer have them!!!???ha and this was for drugs that are widely used in medical community like clomid and hcg
 
This was a great re-read...Magnum, has Your opinion on GH for muscle building changed any? Why do most pros recommend staying on GH as long as they can afford?
 
This thread needs to be BUMPED.

SO MUCH GOOD INFO ON THIS ONE!

Here is a question too -

The recommended cycle of -

8 weeks
eq=400 mg/wk
35 mg var daily
250 mg test/wk

Would this still be a good basic cycle without the Var?

Var is expensive...and times are tough! LOL

Anything to maybe replace var?
 
This thread needs to be BUMPED.

SO MUCH GOOD INFO ON THIS ONE!

Here is a question too -

The recommended cycle of -

8 weeks
eq=400 mg/wk
35 mg var daily
250 mg test/wk

Would this still be a good basic cycle without the Var?

Var is expensive...and times are tough! LOL

Anything to maybe replace var?

I would just run it without the var...I think EQ, Test cycles are good...or just throw in a cheaper oral...
 
so which compounds are mostly Anabolic. I am one who suffers from hairloss and gyno.. dont really feel like reading every compounds profile...

get outa here you lazy bumb
 
do u guys considr subway a cheat meal?


It depends


For someone like myself who has competed since 2009 absolutely. Obviously off season its fine. Pre contest its a no no, depending how lean you are. Dorian Ate chocolate cake three weeks out from Mr O bc he could afford to bc he was already ripped


To the average gym rat nah

you've got to enjoy yourself and let loose once in a while, even if you do compete
 
Man this is an old thread, lol! Still some damn good info here though
 
i did my best gains with primo + mast + almost no test (+TBOL periodically)
 
Great ideas in this thread. I ve known about deca, eq, primo and var increasing collagen synthesis a while now. I can say it seems to be true for deca and eq. Awesome about hgh , something i've never tried, looks like a great drug for healing an injured tendon faster.
 
Doses of each?

No test base?

primo E 700mg/wk
mast E 500mg/wk
test E 100mg/wk
cycle TBOL 60mg preW 3wk On / 3wk Off
 
primo E 700mg/wk
mast E 500mg/wk
test E 100mg/wk
cycle TBOL 60mg preW 3wk On / 3wk Off

Interesting... You never really hear much about Primo being a great mass builder, more of a compund for a "look"

Thanks
 
Primo gets a rap for being weak because most in the past DIDNT go over 300 to 400 mgs ... But you take primo into the 600 to 800 mgs range and its a awesome compound.. Can be expensive but a awesome compiund.. Low sides..feel great on it..
 

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