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Another effective training method to throw in your rotation: "just get that b*tch sore af"

ALL NFL players have contracts, they stipulate what that player is getting paid, among other things.
What all NFL players DON'T have in their contracts is guaranteed money if they get cut.
Plus every player in the NFL is required to sign the current contract with the Players Association. That also gives them certain protections.

This really has nothing to do with this thread but just serves as some clarification.
You missed the point… how many guys get into the NFL and never play or get signed or paid- a lot.

They’re still a pro athlete if they get cut or lose that contract as a bench warmer.

Thank you for explaining what I hope everyone already knew. 😂
 
You missed the point… how many guys get into the NFL and never play or get signed or paid- a lot.

They’re still a pro athlete if they get cut or lose that contract as a bench warmer.

Thank you for explaining what I hope everyone already knew. 😂
I take it by not getting paid you mean not getting that "pay day".
I totally agree with your point on that.
 
You missed the point… how many guys get into the NFL and never play or get signed or paid- a lot.
Brian Scalabrine (commonly referred to as the worst NBA player during his playing career) was a bench warmer player who made the statement “I’m closer to Lebron than you are to me”. A sports show proceeded to invite guests with high school basketball experience to play games up to 11 points vs him. He obliterated everyone, then proceeded to play a 3v1 game against the show hosts and won 11-1. The “worst pro-bodybuilder” is still light years ahead of the average gear user

@bbxtreme take is spot on, figured I’d give a specific example instead of a broad spectrum
 
Brian Scalabrine (commonly referred to as the worst NBA player during his playing career) was a bench warmer player who made the statement “I’m closer to Lebron than you are to me”. A sports show proceeded to invite guests with high school basketball experience to play games up to 11 points vs him. He obliterated everyone, then proceeded to play a 3v1 game against the show hosts and won 11-1. The “worst pro-bodybuilder” is still light years ahead of the average gear user

@bbxtreme take is spot on, figured I’d give a specific example instead of a broad spectrum
I'll take it one step further and use myself as an example - I'd be a horrible competitive bodybuilder. Yeah I could likely go pro just based off how much muscle I have and how conditioned I get but I'd never place top 10 at a pro show.

That said, I'm still many, many orders of magnitude beyond where most gear users will ever go.
 
I get sore AF with low to moderate volume! I find that Muscle Rounds and Pump sets as done in Fortitude Training, in particular get me extremely sore. I don’t know if I’d be able to move if I did really ridiculous volume lol
 
I get sore AF with low to moderate volume! I find that Muscle Rounds and Pump sets as done in Fortitude Training, in particular get me extremely sore. I don’t know if I’d be able to move if I did really ridiculous volume lol
Love myo reps and intensity techniques in general for small parts and isolation exercises. Only thing I never understood is why most people who advocate them don't hit failure on the mini sets. The technique is very similar to rest pause where every mini set is to failure. I get that people want to manage fatigue but for something like a cable tricep press down...it's not like a squat. If you take the initial set to failure and each mini set...it's not like you're going to be so fatigued you can't keep going
 
Love myo reps and intensity techniques in general for small parts and isolation exercises. Only thing I never understood is why most people who advocate them don't hit failure on the mini sets. The technique is very similar to rest pause where every mini set is to failure. I get that people want to manage fatigue but for something like a cable tricep press down...it's not like a squat. If you take the initial set to failure and each mini set...it's not like you're going to be so fatigued you can't keep going
I haven’t personally tried myo reps but they definitely look like something that would be right in my wheelhouse. The DC-style rest pause is one of my absolute set types.
 
I don't chase soreness myself, as for me it means more unfamiliarity than progress. I get sore weeding a garden, but I don't get DOMS in my delts no matter what I do.
If I try a new movement or machine, I'll get sore. If I push to a third rest-pause set I'll get sore. I don't know if there is a correlation between soreness and growth to be found, but the muscle groups I have that do not get as ore tend to be the better ones.
My delts, chest, and back are rarely sore, but yet my better parts. My arms often get sore and still suck. When I was after big legs, they got sore on the second day, but quickly passed.
I'm just catching up on this thread now, but I agree whole heartedly with this. I can play an intense game of pick up basketball and my legs will be a million times more sore than if I did squats as a result of my body being so used to squats. I sure as hell am not building more leg muscle by playing basketball than by doing squats. Brad Schoenfeld has done quite a few studies on soreness and concluded that it doesn't mean you're gaining more muscle.
 
I had this written up for another thread but it definitely applies to you - the average gym bro never makes any appreciable gains in muscle mass over their entire life. They simply dont eat enough, and dont eat enough for LONG ENOUGH, to actually gain real tissue and hold onto it. They are too concerned with "looking the part" and most in fact yo-yo between 10% then 13% then to 11% then to 15%. Never getting big enough OR lean enough to do anything.
I know so many people who've trained for years and don't look that great. The one observation I have about many of them is that they don't eat enough protein. They'll say for example, that their breakfast is just oatmeal with some blueberries and nuts. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROTEIN SOURCE WITH BREAKFAST. Protein is literally the lowest hanging fruit when it comes to muscle growth. It's so incredible easy to get a gram per pound. All someone has to do is add some whey to reach that amount if they don't get it from solid food. Even worse is they think whey is an unhealthy food (false As fuck). It just demonstrates that so many people have a complete lack of understanding of how to structure their diets for muscle growth. It just blows my mind since I have been eating a MINIMUM of 200g protein daily for the last 20 years of my life.
 
Love myo reps and intensity techniques in general for small parts and isolation exercises. Only thing I never understood is why most people who advocate them don't hit failure on the mini sets. The technique is very similar to rest pause where every mini set is to failure. I get that people want to manage fatigue but for something like a cable tricep press down...it's not like a squat. If you take the initial set to failure and each mini set...it's not like you're going to be so fatigued you can't keep going
Hey QB,

I can tell you how I addressed this throughout Fortitude Training (that overall inroads to recovery / CNS, stress, etc. is less for smaller muscle groups and isolation exercises vs. compound movements), although there is one (only one) failure point on the Muscle Round (cluster set).

-On Loading Sets (a "set type" in FT), Isolation exercises can be taken to failure , e.g. pec fly, whereas failure is reserved for only the last set of the compound exercises (e.g., HS press).

-For Muscle Rounds, the rational is to have the single failure point as a marker for gauging progress (at what point throughout the MR the failure happens, as well as how many reps for that set) for setting your self up for next time you would do that exercise (more weight, shoot for more reps?). For this reason, there's just a standard way to do a MR. If you were to just hit failure in kind of willy-nilly way when training a small muscle groups (and/or differently for different muscle groups, depending on the day, the exercise, etc.) and thus had to differentially adjust the weight during the MR, potentially doing a different number of reps for each weight, it's a bit of a mess trying to gauge progress (ala progressive overload). It might come out in the wash for a beginners, but being able to meticulously grind out progress over the course of weeks and months is where progressive overload makes the difference for someone who's fighting tooth and nail for every extra pound of muscle.

-The pump sets are where you can really go to town on smaller muscle groups and isolation exercises, but perhaps be less punishing when doing compound exercises. This is all auto regulated and the Pump sets are where you can incorporate partial reps, holds under stretch, stuff like 21's and just about whatever kind of intensification technique you want to as long as the tension is continuous. In other words, the Pump Sets can go "beyond failure" if you chose to do so in that after you can't do any normal reps, you do partial or do a mechanical drop set (change from DB flies to DB presses once you can't get any more reps with the fly movement.) You could even go to failure and then do an isometric hold in the stretched position if you wanted to. OTOH, deepening on the muscle group, your state of recovery, the exercise, etc. it could just be a high rep set (continuous reps) as long as you're getting about 15-20 reps at a minimum. (Pump sets are at at the highest end of the rep continuum in FT.)

So, your point is such a good one that I built it into the program! LOL :) (It's just that the difference in reps in reserve / failure points vis-a-vis muscle group size / exercise don't show up in Muscle Rounds per se for the sake of having a standardized way of "dosing" the set, so you can better attend to progressive overload.)

-S
 
Hey QB,

I can tell you how I addressed this throughout Fortitude Training (that overall inroads to recovery / CNS, stress, etc. is less for smaller muscle groups and isolation exercises vs. compound movements), although there is one (only one) failure point on the Muscle Round (cluster set).

-On Loading Sets (a "set type" in FT), Isolation exercises can be taken to failure , e.g. pec fly, whereas failure is reserved for only the last set of the compound exercises (e.g., HS press).

-For Muscle Rounds, the rational is to have the single failure point as a marker for gauging progress (at what point throughout the MR the failure happens, as well as how many reps for that set) for setting your self up for next time you would do that exercise (more weight, shoot for more reps?). For this reason, there's just a standard way to do a MR. If you were to just hit failure in kind of willy-nilly way when training a small muscle groups (and/or differently for different muscle groups, depending on the day, the exercise, etc.) and thus had to differentially adjust the weight during the MR, potentially doing a different number of reps for each weight, it's a bit of a mess trying to gauge progress (ala progressive overload). It might come out in the wash for a beginners, but being able to meticulously grind out progress over the course of weeks and months is where progressive overload makes the difference for someone who's fighting tooth and nail for every extra pound of muscle.

-The pump sets are where you can really go to town on smaller muscle groups and isolation exercises, but perhaps be less punishing when doing compound exercises. This is all auto regulated and the Pump sets are where you can incorporate partial reps, holds under stretch, stuff like 21's and just about whatever kind of intensification technique you want to as long as the tension is continuous. In other words, the Pump Sets can go "beyond failure" if you chose to do so in that after you can't do any normal reps, you do partial or do a mechanical drop set (change from DB flies to DB presses once you can't get any more reps with the fly movement.) You could even go to failure and then do an isometric hold in the stretched position if you wanted to. OTOH, deepening on the muscle group, your state of recovery, the exercise, etc. it could just be a high rep set (continuous reps) as long as you're getting about 15-20 reps at a minimum. (Pump sets are at at the highest end of the rep continuum in FT.)

So, your point is such a good one that I built it into the program! LOL :) (It's just that the difference in reps in reserve / failure points vis-a-vis muscle group size / exercise don't show up in Muscle Rounds per se for the sake of having a standardized way of "dosing" the set, so you can better attend to progressive overload.)

-S
Damn, great info... makes sense. Appreciate you taking the time to reply and all the info you provide anytime I come across you on various YouTube channels.
 

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