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Anyone else live a great life but just feel down and out, almost aggravated day to day?

Maybe you aren’t passionate about what you do for work? Or maybe you just want something else out of life but don’t know exactly what is it? I feel like this sometimes too and I always seem to go back to thinking that I’m on the wrong path and this isn’t what I want out of life. But I continue just to live this way because I simply don’t know what to do that would make me enjoy life more and be excited for the day. Could be years of steroid use but on the other hand I don’t think that’s what it is. Have you ever used rec drugs? Weed? Maybe you need to do some soul searching and ask yourself what would make you happy? If it’s not what you currently have and are currently doing then maybe that’s why you feel this way. I can relate to you 100% and I know the frustration of having no reason at all to feel dull about life. Good luck brother maybe when you really sit back and ask yourself, what would make you happy? Maybe you can start there.
 
This is probably the most honest thread I've seen here on PM. Thank you to the original poster for your honesty in how you feel and the great responses of those relating. I also have a great life and have had some feelings similar before. I read a book a long time ago and it said that for a man to feel like a man and have purpose he needs a "battle to fight", "adventure to live", and a "beauty to rescue." I do agree that deep down we don't want or need the boring balanced life and have to stretch ourselves into new arenas, create our own adventures, and even find or create romance where it might not be easily found(long term relationships).
Stay away from meds. Finding the right cocktail can take a long time and often from my experience those on psych meds end up with a flat affect and can't fully experience the highs of life when they arrive.
 
We are like minded! I do believe developing a purpose in life as one of my principles for life. A life with principles and morals is a life worth passing on to the next generation.
what about the opposite approach. I have found people that tend to want to be very moral, righteous, and expect others to be are typically uptight and don't enjoy life and in general miserable.

id say if someone views themselves as someone who has to uphold the worlds morals, just lighten up, live life, be selfish at times, stop trying to be so perfect. no one is changing the world no matter how much idealistic people think they are.
 
what about the opposite approach. I have found people that tend to want to be very moral, righteous, and expect others to be are typically uptight and don't enjoy life and in general miserable.

id say if someone views themselves as someone who has to uphold the worlds morals, just lighten up, live life, be selfish at times, stop trying to be so perfect. no one is changing the world no matter how much idealistic people think they are.
Different regions of the country will behave with their cultural norms. Midwest is much different then the east or west coast. With the main items in the preceding statement the other way around.

It is not the "world's morals", it is the morals and principals that an individual or family nullify.

It is not about upholding the worlds morals. It is about upholding what you as an individual identify as your values and principles. The same goes with families. Everyone has their own religion, faith, and moral compass. Therefore the people you found are not continuous amongst the population your are describing. Jeffery Epstein's moral compass is much different then Warren Buffet's.

It is not about holding yourself to the "worlds" idealistic values, principles, or unwritten rules. It is about how an individual's moral compass guides them through life.

Your values and principles are guiding you in your decisions whether you realize it or not. How they relate to society is up to you!!!

I never said change the world. We both know that changing the world is an impossible task.
 
Different regions of the country will behave with their cultural norms. Midwest is much different then the east or west coast. With the main items in the preceding statement the other way around.

It is not the "world's morals", it is the morals and principals that an individual or family nullify.

It is not about upholding the worlds morals. It is about upholding what you as an individual identify as your values and principles. The same goes with families. Everyone has their own religion, faith, and moral compass. Therefore the people you found are not continuous amongst the population your are describing. Jeffery Epstein's moral compass is much different then Warren Buffet's.

It is not about holding yourself to the "worlds" idealistic values, principles, or unwritten rules. It is about how an individual's moral compass guides them through life.

Your values and principles are guiding you in your decisions whether you realize it or not. How they relate to society is up to you!!!

I never said change the world. We both know that changing the world is an impossible task.
not disagreeing at all, just stating that this could be possibly the OP or other peoples issues.

Some people are so concerned with their "morals and principals" they actually forget to live and let loose. Not saying anyone should be careless at the expense of others but no one needs to have a "moral compass" and if someone uses terms like that they come off as uptight and probably need to take life a little less serious. Everyone knows the laws, whats right and wrong, what kind of person we want to be no need to overanalyze ourselves and life to that extent.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun
 
not disagreeing at all, just stating that this could be possibly the OP or other peoples issues.

Some people are so concerned with their "morals and principals" they actually forget to live and let loose. Not saying anyone should be careless at the expense of others but no one needs to have a "moral compass" and if someone uses terms like that they come off as uptight and probably need to take life a little less serious. Everyone knows the laws, whats right and wrong, what kind of person we want to be no need to overanalyze ourselves and life to that extent.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun
Laws are not the same as values and principles. You are misunderstanding what values are principles are. I would recommend you to go talk to some of you master degree teachers.

You quoted me. So refute what I said to you or you are just preaching.
 
This is probably the most honest thread I've seen here on PM. Thank you to the original poster for your honesty in how you feel and the great responses of those relating. I also have a great life and have had some feelings similar before. I read a book a long time ago and it said that for a man to feel like a man and have purpose he needs a "battle to fight", "adventure to live", and a "beauty to rescue." I do agree that deep down we don't want or need the boring balanced life and have to stretch ourselves into new arenas, create our own adventures, and even find or create romance where it might not be easily found(long term relationships).
Stay away from meds. Finding the right cocktail can take a long time and often from my experience those on psych meds end up with a flat affect and can't fully experience the highs of life when they arrive.
You have not see the high's in life that medication provides to people in times of distress. Psych meds turn a flat affect into a happy human being. Medicine changes peoples life's. Since you are not around mental health patients on a daily basis I don't expect you to understand this.

People who are have a mental health episode can have their quality of life enhanced by medication or theapy. Fun Fact " psych meds has help more people then those who follow directions.
 
Laws are not the same as values and principles. You are misunderstanding what values are principles are. I would recommend you to go talk to some of you master degree teachers.

You quoted me. So refute what I said to you or you are just preaching.
You are the one that seems to be preaching.

You never hear people talk about "my core values" or "my moral compass" in real life. People know what is right and what is wrong and what is important to them. Anyone who tries to analyze it on a deeper level then that in my opinion either...

1. Works as a therapist which is fine
Or
2. May need to lighten up a little bit and not be so uptight. Being would too tight end taking life to serious could be a cause of unhappyness or unfulfillment some. That is the reason for my previous post. To give this perspective that some may be looking at life through too much of philosophical lense and would be happier if they would just live their life and have fun.
 
You have not see the high's in life that medication provides to people in times of distress. Psych meds turn a flat affect into a happy human being. Medicine changes peoples life's. Since you are not around mental health patients on a daily basis I don't expect you to understand this.

People who are have a mental health episode can have their quality of life enhanced by medication or theapy. Fun Fact " psych meds has help more people then those who follow directions.

I will disagree with this too. Mood altering medication in my opinion should be used as a last resort. One of the issues with our society is we are too quick to look to a pill to cure our problems. We are an overmedcated society and I am not in the minority in pointing this out.
 
Thanks for sharing Hawkmoon.

I'm assuming you are saying everything changed for te better.

Do you take the 300mg at once or split it and do you take it in the morning?

Also how long were you running it before you could see the improvement?

Thanks again.


For the better.
The general malaise and apathy have receded.

300mg of XL in the AM with breakfast.
About 2-3 weeks later I noticed that the morning was not such a drag anymore.
 
I will disagree with this too. Mood altering medication in my opinion should be used as a last resort. One of the issues with our society is we are too quick to look to a pill to cure our problems. We are an overmedcated society and I am not in the minority in pointing this out.


Any medication should be used as a last resort, whether to regulate dopamine or blood sugar.
Don't denigrate the benefits of medications that help people with mental problems, as many issues are strictly chemical in nature - "moods" included.

I don't recall seeing people telling diabetics to "toughen up" and skip their insulin.
 
Any medication should be used as a last resort, whether to regulate dopamine or blood sugar.
Don't denigrate the benefits of medications that help people with mental problems, as many issues are strictly chemical in nature - "moods" included.

I don't recall seeing people telling diabetics to "toughen up" and skip their insulin.
No they tell them to work out and stop eating like shit and 95% of the Type 2 diabetics will not be diabetics any more.

I worked in mental health indirectly for many years closely with a psychiatrist in a jail in a while collar town. I monitored inmates medically while they went through their detox and assisted the doc and psychiatrist in sorting through what meds they were on vs needed. Many inmates came in on multiple psych meds that were legitimately prescribed and they swore they needed. The psychiatrist would not prescribe them anything for 2 weeks. His theory was that he needed the mud in the river to clear so he could really see what was going on. Most of them were not eating right, had no actual mental health treatment, were on other drugs and alcoholics, and overall had poor life habits. After you detoxed them off of everything, gave them a structured wake and bed time with activities throughout the day, and gave them 3 square timed meals a day.....after about 2 weeks 90% of them were normal functioning adults who didn't need the meds in the first place. Some would still be on one low dose paxil a day or the occasional true schizophrenic might need a cocktail to control delusions.
 
Recommended reading: The Art of Happiness by the Dalai Lama
 
I live a great life, I look good, my dick works great, I'm successful, I'm healthy, my family is healthy, my relatives are awesome, my friends are animals and girls love me.

Why do I wake up feeling so damn down every day? Just down about life in general, always feeling like something is wrong when nothing actually is. I thought it was drug related so I've dropped everything other than 4iu gh a day, 500mg cyp and 200mg DHB a week. That and metformin along with some b12 and misc supplements, nothing extreme or mind altering at all but unfortunately it hasn't changed.

I'm not some mental midget that needs a pep talk or some psyche evaluation, really I'm not, I know I live a good life and I tell myself that all the time and believe it in my head. I don't need a break or vacation, I take plenty of those, I could have a girl real or just fun anytime I wanted it's nothing to do with that stuff where I need a "change" or some jolt. I have plenty of support from my family, friends and relatives....life is good some may even say my life is great. So why can't I shake this feeling? The feeling that something is always wrong and I'm annoyed that I feel that way, almost like a feeling of impending doom and I'm frustrated that I can't shake it because I know it's not real. I get worried that maybe over these years I've messed with my hormones so much that this is just how it is now.

So pretty much I'm back here looking to drugs for answers, it pains me to say that but that's where it is at this point. I'm not so sure I want to take mind altering depression stuff for the rest of my life that just comes with a whole other set of side effects but there must be something I can at least try. Wasn't there some peptides or something that put you in a good mood? I don't know, I know I'm reaching here but just tired of feeling this way for no reason......
 
Any medication should be used as a last resort, whether to regulate dopamine or blood sugar.
Don't denigrate the benefits of medications that help people with mental problems, as many issues are strictly chemical in nature - "moods" included.

I don't recall seeing people telling diabetics to "toughen up" and skip their insulin.
Do you agree that medications are over prescribed and the pharmaceutical industry is for profit? Of course medications are supposed to be for last resort, but do you think they are actually being used as a last resort?

And a life of insulin should be a last resort for diabetes after someone has tried to change their lifestyle in my opinion. Diet, physical activity, the things we know and all have said many times cause health problems.

We can say medicine should be a last resort but I believe very few in society, including many people who live a lifestyle of fitness, practice what they preach.
 
Do you agree that medications are over prescribed and the pharmaceutical industry is for profit? Of course medications are supposed to be for last resort, but do you think they are actually being used as a last resort?

And a life of insulin should be a last resort for diabetes after someone has tried to change their lifestyle in my opinion. Diet, physical activity, the things we know and all have said many times cause health problems.

We can say medicine should be a last resort but I believe very few in society, including many people who live a lifestyle of fitness, practice what they preach.
I literally said that any medication should be a last resort.

Anywjays, if the diabetic reference is easy to dismiss, how about my asthma medication? Should I suck it up when having an attack? Maybe if I eat more vegetables?

The point is people like to jump on the big pharma is evil and people are just lazy bandwagon. It's like bashing the Matrix online in 1999.

I acknowledge there are imperfections in the deployment of medications, but I'll not cast aside the vast majority of instances where medication improves if not saves lives and cynically dismiss these benefits with a nirvana fallacy.
 
I am in same boat.... but its because most people are cunts.. plain and simple
You need a dog, man. I got one for you if interested. 😁
 

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I literally said that any medication should be a last resort.

Anywjays, if the diabetic reference is easy to dismiss, how about my asthma medication? Should I suck it up when having an attack? Maybe if I eat more vegetables?

The point is people like to jump on the big pharma is evil and people are just lazy bandwagon. It's like bashing the Matrix online in 1999.

I acknowledge there are imperfections in the deployment of medications, but I'll not cast aside the vast majority of instances where medication improves if not saves lives and cynically dismiss these benefits with a nirvana fallacy.

you are using a straw man argument. no one said asthma medication is not needed and everyone is lazy. I stated that medication is over prescribed and we as a society rely too much on medication and not preventive measures. do you agree there should be ads for medicine on TV? do you agree that people see these and say "oh I have these symptoms" then go consult their doctor in an effort to get a script?

if you say people are not lazy, I will disagree 100 percent. your average person is very lazy. look at the obesity epidemic, people pay for uber eats, "Alexa turn off the lights", "I should be able to work from home," why is fast food so popular? why do we have to import people to do manual labor? I will gladly debate that society has become very lazy and people are willing to put less effort into things than in the past. kids grow up nowadays where gaming is a popular hobby.

I think people should be very careful when deciding to take daily medication to change their mood, just my opinion.
 
I am the same. It's this subconscious fear that everything is perfect and I might lose it at any time. It's the same fear that drove me to be successful in the first place.
 

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