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Vander_V said:ARNOLD RULES. Todays bbers are just chemical messes I think in their cases steroids are abused and should be viewed as a mistake.
didnt arnold abuse steroids when he was competing?
Vander_V said:ARNOLD RULES. Todays bbers are just chemical messes I think in their cases steroids are abused and should be viewed as a mistake.
what's the definition of abuse vs. use?SVFootball said:didnt arnold abuse steroids when he was competing?
doug1 said:I'm just a bit surprised by all the guys here that are ragging on Arnold, he is to bodybuilding what the pilgrims were to this country(USA). he took bb from an underground subculture to hundreds of thousands of guys picking up barbells and dumbells and attempting to change their bodies to look like Conan the Barbarian.Supplement companies, gym owners, gear suppliers,
magazine's,equipment sellers, they owe a lot to Arnold.
why do you say this, he has many years of heavy training under his belt.?SVFootball said:.everyone knows he still does them.
doug1 said:why do you say this, he has many years of heavy training under his belt.?
palehorse51 said:I know most of the bros on here know Arnold trained harder and dieted smarter than most anyone. This in addition to Greek God genetics.
palehorse51 said:Dont forget, when Arnold was using, steroids were not illegal!
However, Arnold should stand up and help educate people on the legitimate use of AAS as compared to abuse.
palehorse51 said:Lets make this crystal clear: Arnold is God.
And his use was no where near abuse. So he popped some Dbols big F*cking deal. His doses were nothing compared to the stacks of today.
I know most of the bros on here know Arnold trained harder and dieted smarter than most anyone. This in addition to Greek God genetics.
BitsOBrawn said:Dude you are crazy. First off Arnold starting using at a much younger age than most guys. This is probably one of the several things that vaulted him to the level he was able to achieve at such a young age. Have you seen pics of him at 18 years? The dude was HUGE! Also it's a known fact that Arnold used more than most of his competitors, especially Sergio.....it was said he had to just to keep up with him. Yes Arnold trained hard and was very disciplined but don't fool yourself into thinking if it would make him grow at all costs he wouldn't take it.
When did they first become illegal?mikeheavypecs said:Sorry to contradict you, but steriods WERE illegal back then. Just not the Class they are now. Many a dealer went to prison over them!
Mike
palehorse51 said:Crazy huh?Of course Arnie took his share of gear, no doubt about it! You really think Arnold started any earlier or took more than most of the guys then or today?? Think again. Arnolds genetics/ unstoppable drive/ savage training/ discipline are what vaulted him to the level he was able to acheive!! Sorry to break it to you but, IT WASNT THE GEAR! How many guys all over the world take massive dosages of insane stacks? Yet very few can become the best! AND NO ONE HAS EVER LOOKED BETTER IMO!!!
If it was the gear there would be hundreds of thousands of Arnolds, Dorians, Ronnies runnin around !
Truth is you dont know WHAT Arnold took! Its pure speculation!
bigheinz said:I dont know, but let me ask you: How many lifes steroids safe??? People with debilitating illneses, Post rehabilitation, Injures, people in Hospital beds, enjoys teh benefits of as, people that needs testosteron eather to help testosterone levels or rejuveation, senior citizens....
HOW MANY PEOPLE AS KILLS A YEAR TO BE ILEGAL??
HOW MANY PEOPLE ALCOHOL AND TABACO KILLS A YEAR??
those pics are more a testament to good genetics, i think it's wrong to sit back and say he used large amounts at a young age and that's why he was big. does that also apply to lee priest and jay cutler since they looked awesome in their teens as well?BitsOBrawn said:Have you seen pics of him at 18 years? The dude was HUGE!
palehorse51 said:Dont forget, when Arnold was using, steroids were not illegal!
However, Arnold should stand up and help educate people on the legitimate use of AAS as compared to abuse.
JohnnyPro said:Arnold is known for doing whatever it takes to win. Now, instead of bodybuilding, it's politics. There are very few politicians, Republican or Democrat, who make decisions based on what they believe is right. They make their decisions based on how popular it will be and will it help them politically and get them votes. I love Arnold but to be honest he is looking out for himself and his future.