I think they are underrated as a muscle builder. In fact, I don't know how people simply determine what is for mass and what is for "definition" sometimes. I do them at the end after pressing though.
Has anyone else noticed that “cable crossovers” done right builds just as much mass in the chest, if not more, than pressing movements?
[lang=pl]To be honest i dont think so... Lets look up to guys like Dante T., Mentzer, J. Peters or any low volume trainees out there. The fibers go along with weights mostly... Lately i had the same problem i though that the problem is in the excercises but they dont, the problem is in the technique like you say for most ppl pressing is more for delt just cuz they cant do it right, and thats the key. Do your presses move fck heavy and controll, contrack mussle, learn how to actuallu use it and you gonna grow like baby! Thats just my expirience, and i found it works. I stopped do shitty pump work and waste my time at a gym ;p.Fly movements recruit a lot more pec muscle fibers than pressing movements. You can just feel it if you do both movements right now with no resistance. Pressing is a lot of delt work.
Fly movements recruit a lot more pec muscle fibers than pressing movements. You can just feel it if you do both movements right now with no resistance. Pressing is a lot of delt work.
It's one of the ways your pec muscle is intended to move...(crossing your arms in front of you).
A great variation of a pec exercise I like sometimes is to get seated in a Hammer Bench Press facing sideways. Your shoulder will be resting against the pad that normally your back is resting on.
Load plates on one side...and use one arm to press the handle out. This moves it across your chest. It's like a combination bench/flye.
Having the pad on the back of the machine to brace yourself against allows you to use some heavier weight. It's a great finishing exercise and takes most of the delts out of what really feels like a pressing movement...just across your body!
I have somewhat a disproportionate chest compared to crappy arms.
Heavy presses have been a staple for me. (incline BB smith, DBs, Hammer Strength).
Cable crossovers, and the pec deck have been great for metabolic stress to the muscle, but not something I would progressively overload for the sake of shoulder integrity
No exercise is for definition. The shape and look of a muscle is genetically predetermined. You can only increase the size of it. Definition is achieved through diet and low bodyfat levels.