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can i start low dose deca and low dose test i have high lover enzymes?

ripped103

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just got blood work back
liver
alt-159
ast-132

cholesteral-215
hdl=22
ldl-166
the thing is my injury feels like im dying since ive been off for two months
i read deca dont affect liver and test isnt that harsh
let me know what you think
deca either 100mg or 200mg
test 250 or 500 enanthate
 

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What kind of injury did you have that worsened your liver values?

xcel
 

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Yeah, I was gonna ask the same thing. What you should do is supplement your diet with some r-ALA for a while, then see how your liver levels look. As for your cycle... I'd just go with a nice simple test only cycle... just go with enanthate 500mg/wk or so. That should do the trick.
 

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well was in car accident and C-4 C-5 C-6 C-7 they want too do a 4 level disc surgery but that will make me bascially cripple.i wont be able too move my neck again.

so ive been going too pain management and am on a lot of meds
for pain and instead of masking the pain with all these meds which actually hurt my liver and cholesteral.
id rather take some deca which helped ,as the pin the most ans test so i can keep it up
just want too make sure my levels wont go up anymore
ive been takng neurontin 1800mg daily percosets 100mg daily and methadone 20-40mg daily.the percs have over 3000mg of tylonel a day which is prob the cause of the liver function
this been going on for over a year alreadyplease say that
test and low dose deca wont affect my liver enzymes as log as diet is totally clean
i need the deca badthats the onlt thing that really helped
thanks
 

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If you're gonna be training or goin through any sort of rehab, stay away from nandrolone. It binds to the glucocorticoid receptor interfereing with the action of real corticoids. This can be a double edged sword though. It'll function as an anti-inflammatory, but at the same time, it makes it alot harder to guage progress... because you don't feel the pain doesn't mean there's nothing wrong. You're more prone to reinjury this way.

My recommendation would be a light test cycle, maybe some primo, r-ALA.... and plenty of GH. GH will be the best thing you can take in your situation. Talk to your doc about it... many times they'll be willing to try GH therapy before resorting to surgery. If he's a little unsure of it, tell him that is the plan. They only advise you on the best course of action... you are the one with the final say. It's your body. If at all possible give GH therapy a chance before resorting the surgery.
 

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the problem is that pain management gives me narcotics too mask the pain which is more harmful too the body than some test and deca.
so id just be masking the pain in a different way.
i can barely function properly right now due too all the meds
so as long as they dont interfere with my liver anymore because all the tylenol in the pain meds did already,id rather go that route
the surgery ill do when there is no more options.
by the way i did a year long hgh cycle after my accident did nothing and i was using 10iu a day at minimum.
 

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Jesus, your cholesterol numbers are terrible. A total over 200 is okay, but not with an HDL of 22. I'm not saying don't go on cycel, but be sure to avoid drol, et, al., that will aggravate the issue. And, increase your intake of oatmeal and red fleshed fish like salmon and tuna. Also try to incorpoarate more legumes, whole grains and (yes really) tofu into your diet. Trust me, it works, as a few on here who know me can attest from my troubles in the past.

--Bjorn,

Before: total cholesterol 277, hdl 26
After: total cholesterol 224, hdl 74
 

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Wow! Haven't seen Bjorn's name in a long time. I agree with Bjorn too. Your cholesterol is pretty high also. If it were me, I'd hold off till everything came back down some. What about taking some liv-52 to help out the liver enzymes?
 

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