CAN'T WAIT TO BULK THIS YEAR!!!

[RONJON]

Trying the Gavin Kane Hardcore bulking program. 7500g of food per day..some days are 10000. I eat really clean year round so changing my diet like this is gunna be some serious FUN!!! I can eat things that I haven't got to eat in a LOOOOOONG time and even some double cheeseburgers or two some times!!! I am running some d-bol, deca, and drol and doing a HIT lifting program alot like Mark Dugdale and Dorian Yates (unless i decide to change). Do all you guys get this excited during "bulking season"??? Cuz I am friggin excited about it!!! O and I love lifting super heavy and this diet will help that for sure

RONJON

 

[pesty4077]

Trying the Gavin Kane Hardcore bulking program. 7500g of food per day..some days are 10000. I eat really clean year round so changing my diet like this is gunna be some serious FUN!!! I can eat things that I haven't got to eat in a LOOOOOONG time and even some double cheeseburgers or two some times!!! I am running some d-bol, deca, and drol and doing a HIT lifting program alot like Mark Dugdale and Dorian Yates (unless i decide to change). Do all you guys get this excited during "bulking season"??? Cuz I am friggin excited about it!!! O and I love lifting super heavy and this diet will help that for sure

RONJON

Maybe you should watch the movie, "supersize me"

 

[Tom]

wrong

instead of bulking up 30 lbs to net 4 or 5 lbs of lean mass why not just put on the 4 or 5 lbs of lean mass? much healthier and you won't get short of breath bending over to tie your shoes.

 

[james001]

instead of bulking up 30 lbs to net 4 or 5 lbs of lean mass why not just put on the 4 or 5 lbs of lean mass? much healthier and you won't get short of breath bending over to tie your shoes.

I couldn't agree more... bulking is moronic.

 

[-OC-]

I see that Phil's reading this one, and I visualize a shaking head.

 

[parrajm]

dude, unless you're planning on doing the tour de france, there is absolutely no need to eat like that. people who rock triathalons dont even eat that much. good healthy food will serve you well even below the 4000 calorie mark imo. and just think about working out with 7500 calories worth of food in you. it makes me want to vomit just thinking about it.

 

[oldfella]

Put up some now pics................................and I can't wait to see the after pics!!!

 

[T TOTAL]

Can't see the need to bulk up that much. Think its more of a psychological release for you to be able to have the sin foods so often. Eating like that will do your insides no good for sure.

Like its already been said why not just put on the lean mass. You could still have an off season by eating more good clean foods with a good high calorie day with sin foods in once per week or have two good cheat meal twice per week. I imagine you won't sicken youself either from eating crap so often.

 

[UKBoss]

i have to admit i tryed some thing simular a few years back,complete waste of energy,better to comsume a good diet and keep it cleaner as already said bro

 

[Tawab]

I couldn't agree more... bulking is moronic.

damn! I thought I was the only one to have that kinda problem while bulking up!!

 

[T TOTAL]

Ive also found in my earlier years before i done cardio and was consistant with ' bodybuilding dietery requirements ', that when i bulked as you suggest your planning, i bacame sluggish and lazy, just got tired easy and it wasn't because i was carrying alot of weight. Id say it ws because i was carrying excess ' fat ' weight.

 

[maldorf]

As everyone here has pointed out, this is not a good idea. If youre looking to put on mass go about adding maybe 500 cals to your diet and run that for 2 or 3 weeks and go from there.
Doing it they way you are considering will just add much fat tissue and also be unhealthy. Try doing it and then have a blood test run about 4 to 8 weeks into it, while youre running a cycle. See how great your test results come back.
Once youre done with the bulking phase you will be faced with loosing all of that fat you accumulated. If you gained a lot you might have even created new fat cells, as they can replicate. You will have gained fat by not only increasing the size of your present fat cells but also by creating new ones.

 

[Shelby]

At higher bodyfat levels, insulin sensitivity is decreased and estrogen levels are higher.

You don't need to stay crazy lean in the offseason, but there's no reason to get sloppy.


Fat does not build muscle.

Sound training and nutrition do.

 

[BigCanuck]

I agree...there is really no need to go over 500 calories above maintenance or 12-15 percent bodyfat.

 

[Pekkerwood]

RonJon:

Your enthusiasm is great and can become your biggest asset. Proper Direction. Aim that enthusiasm in the proper direction and you will get better results. When a lot of us were younger, b4 the easy sharing of information on the internet, a lot of us probably did what you are attempting to do. It was a mistake then, some of us just didn't know better. We were working with the information we had and anecdotal evidence from a couple of "guys we knew who were big".

You have come along at a time with superior information, and this forum for sharing it. You can benefit from the knowledge and advice from others who have traveled the path you are looking to go down. Please learn from the mistakes/advice of others. Listen and benefit. Its that simple. The older I get, the more things that my elders told me come true.

You may gather your knowledge however you choose, that is your right. The fact that you shared your desires on an open forum opens them up to critique and helpful advice. No one here is "Player Hating", they are trying to be helpful.

I've done similar to what you are proposing, It was a mistake I regret and hindered my gains. Its also expensive. Your buying a lot of calories to basically convert to fat. You have to get two wardrobes. You go through months of being unhealthy. You then have the stress dieting puts on your body. It would be a tradeoff to consider if this were the best way to put on lean mass or the only way. It isn't.


With that said, you have to find a style that works for you., Combine your exuberance with the proper knowledge and discipline and you will be unstoppable. Good Luck my friend with whatever you choose.

Pekkerwood

 

[btech]

....only if you must

 

[RONJON]

Thanks guys especially Pekkerwood for your advice... i am just wondering why the 7500kcals per day program (which is from the Hardcore Bulking Part 1 by Gavin Kane on this board is so looked down on now). I thought this guy was highly respected on here??? and it seemed like everybody was interested in the article...and when i brought it up it seems that it is a terrible idea??? Whats up with that guys

 

[Pekkerwood]

RonJon:

I don't think "looked down on" is the proper thought. You will certainly put on "Bulk". For some people, "hard gainers", etc. this might be what works for them. One thing to remember in life is that systems of all sorts tend to fail at the extremes whether they be mechanical, emotional, electrical, or carbon based. The examples are numerous:

1. Crank you stereo to 10 and your speakers Blow. Crank it to 6 and it is reasonably loud listening. Crank it to 1 and you can't hear it.

2. Call your girl 35 times a day and your phsyco. Call her 3 times a day, you're (sweet), call her none a day and she drops you (or chases you around if she's the pshyco)

3. Drink one glass of wine you are "heart healthy", Drink none and you don't get the benefits, Drink 10 and you are Pekkerwood.

I suggest that unless you are competing at the highest levels of this sport that you put your health first and approach your goals with moderation in all but your efforts. Don't put on excessive fat, don't put undue strain on your heart by gaining weight so quickly. I personally feel the slower, steadier, the muscle gains, the more permanent they become. I have no proof. It is just my belief from my own climb from 183 to 270+ and observing others. No science, no studies. My observation only.

There is a lot of good general advice here. For you to get real specific advice for your body status, goals, etc. some folks on here offer paid services worth far more than the dollars spent and you get advice tailored to your specific needs. I use them myself.

Another general piece of advice is to make your mistakes small ones. Make incremetal changes. When friends move to a new city I always advise them to lease first instead of buy. Find out without overcommitting whether they even like the city, and then learn where they want to live by a little personal experience. Don't jump from 3000 calories to 10,000 calories. There are a lot of stops in between that you can test and observe. Enjoy the ride, learn how you respond at each level.

Same holds true for your supplementation. Small increases, less risk. Moderation my friend. Again I wish you success.


Pekkerwood

 

[Shelby]

Pekkerwood for president.

 

[RONJON]

Pekkerwood...thanks again bro and that makes alot of sense please send me some info on the advice tailored to your specific needs. I might be very interested in that. And can u share ur experiences????

Thanks bro