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So I have guy at my gym that has been training for year , pretty big dude but never been really lean , power lifted in high school and college and still trains hard just not to compete in lifting anymore. Done quite a few cycles up till the last 6 years were healthy has been more of a priority.
So he has decided that since he just turned 40 he wants to try to get on stage and wants to do his own prep but asked if I’d look over his plan. I personally think is a bit to aggressive and he’ll get tired of it quickly but I think he should get good results in fat loss.
So here is his initial plan
5am: wake , take 2iu HGH , 100mcg T4 , 200mg Caffeine , 25mg ephedrine , 7.5mg Yohimbine hcl
5:30: 30 min walk carrying and lifting 20lb dumbbells
8:00: 50g Protein , 20g Fat (eggs)
11:00: 50g Protein , 20g fat , (93% ground turkey , 3 cups vegetables)
12:30: 200mg Caffeine , 25mg ephedrine , 7.5mg Yohimbine hcl
1:00: 30 min walk carrying and lifting 20lb dumbbells
2:00: 50g Protein , 20g fat , (chicken , 3 cups vegetables , Olive oil)
5:00: 45 min weight training (15g EAA , 10g Creatine , 10g Glutamamine , 5g Citruline mallate) 100mg caffeine , 25mg ephedrine , 7.5 mg yohimbine hcl
6:00: 50g whey protein shake
8:00: 50g Protein , 20g fat (93% lean beef , 3 cups vegetables)
10:00: 2iu HGH , bed
3 Refeed meals once a week all three meals back to back (30g Protein , 75g carbs , 25g fat from eggs , beef , sweet potatoes)
Gear will be
Weeks 1-6 , 200mg Test Cyp , 200mg Tren Enanthate , 200mg Mast Enanthate
Weeks 7-12 , 200mg Test Cyp , 300mg Tren Enanthate , 300mg Mast Enanthate
Weeks 13-16 , 200mg test Cyp , 400mg Tren Enanthate , 400mg Mast Enanthate , 350mg Winstrol
That’s copy and paste from what he sent me , I personally think that’s a bit to aggressive but he is at 260lbs , 20ish% body fat for the last 3 years only taking 150mg week test Cyp for TRT , so it might be needed just not sure it’s sustainable for 16 weeks
Just wanted some second opinions as I know a few guys here have done the whole very low calorie kind of dieting. His idea is that he can drop 15lbs of fat and add around 10lbs muscle due to the drugs but I don’t think adding any muscle is a possibility with calories that low.
So he has decided that since he just turned 40 he wants to try to get on stage and wants to do his own prep but asked if I’d look over his plan. I personally think is a bit to aggressive and he’ll get tired of it quickly but I think he should get good results in fat loss.
So here is his initial plan
5am: wake , take 2iu HGH , 100mcg T4 , 200mg Caffeine , 25mg ephedrine , 7.5mg Yohimbine hcl
5:30: 30 min walk carrying and lifting 20lb dumbbells
8:00: 50g Protein , 20g Fat (eggs)
11:00: 50g Protein , 20g fat , (93% ground turkey , 3 cups vegetables)
12:30: 200mg Caffeine , 25mg ephedrine , 7.5mg Yohimbine hcl
1:00: 30 min walk carrying and lifting 20lb dumbbells
2:00: 50g Protein , 20g fat , (chicken , 3 cups vegetables , Olive oil)
5:00: 45 min weight training (15g EAA , 10g Creatine , 10g Glutamamine , 5g Citruline mallate) 100mg caffeine , 25mg ephedrine , 7.5 mg yohimbine hcl
6:00: 50g whey protein shake
8:00: 50g Protein , 20g fat (93% lean beef , 3 cups vegetables)
10:00: 2iu HGH , bed
3 Refeed meals once a week all three meals back to back (30g Protein , 75g carbs , 25g fat from eggs , beef , sweet potatoes)
Gear will be
Weeks 1-6 , 200mg Test Cyp , 200mg Tren Enanthate , 200mg Mast Enanthate
Weeks 7-12 , 200mg Test Cyp , 300mg Tren Enanthate , 300mg Mast Enanthate
Weeks 13-16 , 200mg test Cyp , 400mg Tren Enanthate , 400mg Mast Enanthate , 350mg Winstrol
That’s copy and paste from what he sent me , I personally think that’s a bit to aggressive but he is at 260lbs , 20ish% body fat for the last 3 years only taking 150mg week test Cyp for TRT , so it might be needed just not sure it’s sustainable for 16 weeks
Just wanted some second opinions as I know a few guys here have done the whole very low calorie kind of dieting. His idea is that he can drop 15lbs of fat and add around 10lbs muscle due to the drugs but I don’t think adding any muscle is a possibility with calories that low.