little slice
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You value celebrities? Thats problem #1 is this world.
That's not what he said or even implied..
Not even remotely close
You value celebrities? Thats problem #1 is this world.
You really wanna go down that route? Then all of the millions of bums who can't take care of themselves and rely on welfare need to go, too.
There are laws now designed to stop people from unintentionally killing or hurting others and we don't fight those. Like speed limits on the nation's roads. Drunk driving is illegal. Should it be legal for someone to have target practice with their riffle or pistol in the middle of a busy neighborhood? Going out with the virus and infecting others is causing others harm, even though its not intentional. Those folks could die now. In about 1 month the hospital will be geared up and more able to handle the case load, and then we ease up on things. Are you telling me that you cant make it another 2 weeks with these restrictions? If you aren't able to financially then thats your fault for not preparing for something like this. Everyone should have a "rainy day fund".At what point is it everyones job to save everyone's from everything? Is the sole goal of humanity to make everyone live as long as possible at all expense? So then we should ban Fast food, we should have stricter laws (if your somewhat dangerous you should be locked up you may kill someone), we should ban alcohol, we should make ciggerates illegal, motorcycles illegal, cars should not be able to go over 35mph etc, we should have lockdowns every year because every year old people die from the flu. At what point is it considered insanity? I consider this lockdown past that point just like the things I listed that I would assume all agree are insanity.
I guess as society has evolved in the past 100 years we fear death more and more. What if we had this mindset back in the days of caveman, who would have went to hunt food? Someone might die.
There are laws now designed to stop people from unintentionally killing or hurting others and we don't fight those. Like speed limits on the nation's roads. Drunk driving is illegal. Should it be legal for someone to have target practice with their riffle or pistol in the middle of a busy neighborhood? Going out with the virus and infecting others is causing others harm, even though its not intentional. Those folks could die now. In about 1 month the hospital will be geared up and more able to handle the case load, and then we ease up on things. Are you telling me that you cant make it another 2 weeks with these restrictions? If you aren't able to financially then thats your fault for not preparing for something like this. Everyone should have a "rainy day fund".
There are laws now designed to stop people from unintentionally killing or hurting others and we don't fight those. Like speed limits on the nation's roads. Drunk driving is illegal. Should it be legal for someone to have target practice with their riffle or pistol in the middle of a busy neighborhood? Going out with the virus and infecting others is causing others harm, even though its not intentional. Those folks could die now. In about 1 month the hospital will be geared up and more able to handle the case load, and then we ease up on things. Are you telling me that you cant make it another 2 weeks with these restrictions? If you aren't able to financially then thats your fault for not preparing for something like this. Everyone should have a "rainy day fund".
The lockdown or social distancing measures have been done to buy time. Time to 1) get more data about the mortality rate, 2) find treatments and produce necessary medications at scale, 3) increase ICU capacity, 4) produce more PPE, 5) scale up testing capabilites 6) prepare the population mentally for mass casualties. We arguably need a couple more weeks for the above, after which we can use other measures, such as isolating only the old and weak and letting younger people back to work. Lockdowns may then need to be reestablished in specific locations only.What is another 2 weeks going to do? What is the criteria for when we can open things back up? Remember, the entire world is now in lockdown from 1 person originally getting the virus; so how can you open up anything until there is either a vaccine or no cases?
Is your buddy a doctor or a cafeteria worker at that hospital? Speaking to real doctors including my son, I get a different opinion; told not to panic but stay at home as much as possible to minimize exposure, keep distance in public, keep sanitary etc.Just texted with a buddy of mine who works in one of the biggest hospitals here in South FL..
The media will tell you our area has the most cases behind NY and the fastest rising cases etc...
Here’s what he had to say;
Is your buddy a doctor or a cafeteria worker at that hospital? Speaking to real doctors including my son, I get a different opinion; told not to panic but stay at home as much as possible to minimize exposure, keep distance in public, keep sanitary etc.
Look, yes this is bad for the economy. I'm actually starting to stress whether my company will exist after this. But I understand the need for social distancing. I'm hoping people will learn how to behave and be cautious in public, and that in a short time things will open up again even if the virus is still there, but by then people will be taking it seriously, be aware of how to behave in public to minimize everyone's risk and life can resume while we successfully battle the virus.
If some of these idiots that travelled didn't ignore the self quarantine orders we probably wouldn't be in this situation now.
I guess as society has evolved in the past 100 years we fear death more and more. What if we had this mindset back in the days of caveman, who would have went to hunt food? Someone might die.
Its funny how a little more than 20 years ago, Michael Jordan had his legendary game in the NBA finals in a packed arena, where he supposedly had the flu; and people worshiped him like he was a hero for that performance. By today's standards he would be viewed as a murderer.
More hospital beds, more ventilators, and a drug treatment protocol along with a supply chain. Right now the hospitals are handicapped.What is another 2 weeks going to do? What is the criteria for when we can open things back up? Remember, the entire world is now in lockdown from 1 person originally getting the virus; so how can you open up anything until there is either a vaccine or no cases?
The lockdown or social distancing measures have been done to buy time. Time to 1) get more data about the mortality rate, 2) find treatments and produce necessary medications at scale, 3) increase ICU capacity, 4) produce more PPE, 5) scale up testing capabilites 6) prepare the population mentally for mass casualties. We arguably need a couple more weeks for the above, after which we can use other measures, such as isolating only the old and weak and letting younger people back to work. Lockdowns may then need to be reestablished in specific locations only.
Trump gets it. Yes, in the short term the drastic measures were justified. But after a couple of weeks we can and should scale them back since the marginal benefits no longer outweigh the costs. Easter may be a bit early, but at least he gave a time line to show the people that this is only temporary.
Most of the jobs will come back. The people arent being fired, it's a lay off. Once things pick back up they will be back on payroll. Its not like they have to start all over and find a new job. My buddy that runs a machine shop layed off a few but said he will have them back once things pick up.You must not be following the unemployment rate skyrocketing... So it’s fair to say that it’s someone’s fault for not having a rainy day fund but it’s not someone’s fault for making shitty health choices that make them more susceptible to this virus (I know that’s not the case for everyone, but sure as hell is for a lot of people, including partially you)? That’s a bit hypocritical..
Tons of companies are laying people off.. I know a couple dozen people personally who’ve been completely laid off from work, not just out of work for now.. And that number is rising by the hour.
To lock up and shut down an entire country for this is absolutely ridiculous.. Look at the numbers! It’s only affecting a small portion of the population in general and an even smaller portion critically... It’s literally like saying it’s against the law to go out when it’s raining because you might get struck by lightning..
Stop with the stuff CNN and Fox feed you.. They’re only ever going to give edited and narrative fitting news with the absolute worst case scenario.. For a week already they’ve been saying our country will be like Italy or worse by a week’s time.. Well guess what! It’s been a week and everything is perfectly fine with the exception of the economy taking a nose dive..
We’re going to see how you and others feel if this shit keeps going and crime rates spike and you fear for your life in a different way...
Most of the jobs will come back. The people arent being fired, it's a lay off. Once things pick back up they will be back on payroll. Its not like they have to start all over and find a new job. My buddy that runs a machine shop layed off a few but said he will have them back once things pick up.
No, but once the quarantine measures are withdrawn business is going to come back rather fast. It wont be all at once, but over the course of several months. Those employers are all going to need more workers again. In my friend's machine shop he has a LOT of trouble finding good men that will always show up to work and do their job well. Lots of losers out there that show up late or don't come in at all, for whatever reasons. He is sure as hell going to call up the workers he let go and get them back when he needs them. Why the heck would he want to go search for new employees and have to train them, screen them, etc? Jobs are going to come back.No that’s not what it means at all.. Look it up.. Your buddy is nice and probably will take those people back and they probably have established relationships etc, but for the vast majority of people it’s not like things are going to pick up right where they left off.. Employers are not bound by legal contract to take anyone back..