Different esters, same compound - difference in sides?

UGAthlete · Dec 7, 2009

I'm wondering specifically in terms of water retention from test propionate compared to enanthate, but general information for all compounds with options in esters would be helpful and educational.

Stewie Griffon · Dec 7, 2009

many people say the shorter test esters - like prop - give less water retention

UGAthlete · Dec 7, 2009

That's what I was referring to - any explanation for this?

maldorf · Dec 7, 2009

I never really personally experienced less retention with one ester or another, or at least the difference was so small that I did not notice. I know a lot of guys make a big deal out of it though. I know I got more water retention than ever just using straight test base with no ester.

LATS · Dec 7, 2009

not sure why it would be.. but i know a few guys who swear that npp id actually more potent with less sides than standard nandrolone.. they swear by it..

VNV · Dec 7, 2009

I've always heard prop leads to less water retention than cypionate or enanthate, and in my experience, that's correct.

superman21 · Dec 7, 2009

I believe prop and enenthate/cyp all carry the same amount of water retention. People think that prop carries less retention, i however think they think this because it is in and out of the body quicker. With cyp/enth you actually build more test up in your body because of its halflife, and with more test comes more water retention. i hope this made sense.

machola · Dec 7, 2009

i read a study about this a while ago. the study showed shorter esters are inferior to longer esters mg per mg. 250mg test enanthate/cypionate will give greater anabolic effect, greater muscle gains, greater estrogen conversion than 250mg test propionate. its strange because chemically there is more test in 250mg prop than 250mg cyp/en but physiologically it gives a weaker effect.

DatBtrue · Dec 7, 2009

LATS said:
not sure why it would be.. but i know a few guys who swear that npp id actually more potent with less sides than standard nandrolone.. they swear by it..

I swear on that.

PsyT · Dec 7, 2009

I was under the impression that water retention was from estrogen levels. Maybe some esters lend themselves to higher rates of conversion? Just speculating though.