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Do you experience less water retention with short ester test?

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You know that saying, "test is test," right? People say the only diff is the length of the ester, affecting benefits and side effects. But some dudes are all about the shorter esters like test prop, test ace, or NPP, saying they cause way less water retention.
What’s your take on this? Have you noticed any differences yourself?
 
No. I also inject daily. The only difference I notice is I can get more mg per ml in longer esters.
 
I use prop daily no water, but have never really had any water retention from AAS. Never understood "moon face" drop and dbol just make veins pop
 
I've been watching a lot of Kurt Havens lately, and he mentioned that "test is test." Essentially, the reason people tend to hold less water on testosterone propionate is that they often change their dosages. Example, they reduce their intake from a gram of test e/cyp per week to 500mg prop, which results in less water retention. According to him, there's no difference between esters in regards to water retention.
 
I've been watching a lot of Kurt Havens lately, and he mentioned that "test is test." Essentially, the reason people tend to hold less water on testosterone propionate is that they often change their dosages. Example, they reduce their intake from a gram of test e/cyp per week to 500mg prop, which results in less water retention. According to him, there's no difference between esters in regards to water retention.
There's simply a build-up effect with long esters administered with a decent frequency, something you're not going to see with esters like prop or ace.
So unless you're properly managing aromatization, Test level gets higher and higher as weeks go by, but so does E2.
Hence the higher water retention (does not apply at all to non-aromatizing compounds like Tren.).
Of course, if your doses and administration frequency are low enough to prevent a build-up, you're not going to see a relevant difference (like 30mg T prop/day vs 100mg Cyp twice a week).
 
There's simply a build-up effect with long esters administered with a decent frequency, something you're not going to see with esters like prop or ace.
So unless you're properly managing aromatization, Test level gets higher and higher as weeks go by, but so does E2.
Hence the higher water retention (does not apply at all to non-aromatizing compounds like Tren.).
Of course, if your doses and administration frequency are low enough to prevent a build-up, you're not going to see a relevant difference (like 30mg T prop/day vs 100mg Cyp twice a week).
If those dose is the same the difference should be negligible though, right? 500 test e vs 500 test p
 
I use prop daily no water, but have never really had any water retention from AAS. Never understood "moon face" drop and dbol just make veins pop
I used to retain water like a fish. Always thought it was estrogen related but since I started taking magnesium, I hold way less water. Cialis gives me worse moon face than test e or c, don't know why but it messes me up good.
 
I used to retain water like a fish. Always thought it was estrogen related but since I started taking magnesium, I hold way less water. Cialis gives me worse moon face than test e or c, don't know why but it messes me up good.
In on another moon face thread. Tylenol makes me look like a puffer fish.
 
My assumption was that he’s starting retarded threads to get members to look at this signature
Ive been digging the simple question threads that turn into the OP raging on everyone lol. The fact he isn’t makes me think your assumption is correct
 
My assumption was that he’s starting retarded threads to get members to look at this signature
I never pay attention to signatures especially if they are advertising AAS/bullshit supplements or whatever. I took a look and I think your 100% correct. Lol don't even know what that bullshit is he's selling
 
I use prop daily no water, but have never really had any water retention from AAS. Never understood "moon face" drop and dbol just make veins pop

🤯🏈🐡?!?!

Football make face less puffy?!?!
 
I used to retain water like a fish. Always thought it was estrogen related but since I started taking magnesium, I hold way less water. Cialis gives me worse moon face than test e or c, don't know why but it messes me up good.
I know this is a junk thread but I'll add to it since for me, I've had a lot of issues and things are forever changing but I'm so close!

While I think cialis makes retain some water primarily in my face, what it really does is give me indigestion and I'll end up taking pepcid complete or nexium. Turns out nexium was blocking all or most magnesium absorption. I just recently started nexium daily to better treat indigestion. What a mess, I worked so far backwards. It plummet my magnesium and then my thyroid kicks off and swells and I become hyperthyroid. When I started nexium daily, I started pissing and sweating out every bit of magnesium supplement I was taking and it took me a minute to realize. Back off nexium and still on magnesium, starting to feel human again and am no longer dumping my magnesium supplements.

I'm also on 400mg test c/week, with no ai. something I've never been able to maintain with or without an ai. I haven't been able to run a real cycle in 10 years, they'd always fall apart. The kicker, I'm dry as shit and looking sexy as fuck! Could be a touch leaner but I enjoy eating whatever I want. 30lbs lighter than last year and stronger. I'm so excited. Dr's were zero help and told me im crazy, no joke! My next physical, I'm going to tell my dr she's a piece of shit and get kicked out of that Dr's office.
 

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