Do you use orals year round?

[dantes]

I used orals a bit in my early 20s but as I got older (32 now) I just didn’t like the way I felt on them. I rarely use orals now and I am actually very happy that I don’t tolerate them well as I probably would have used them more frequently if I got little to no sides from them.

I personally don’t really understand why guys abuse orals these days as injectables of good quality are so easy to buy I can literally sit on my ass and order them to my door with Bitcoin and get them in under a week. I get why guys in the early 90s used them a lot with iffy availability on injects.

I really think the worst oral for health is superdrol I am old enough that I was around when those first started coming out and I remember young dudes who basically ran them non stop and would get liver pain. I actually went to college with a guy who died of organ failure which I think was linked as he took a ton of pro hormones basically year round.

 

[st114]

I only did it personally for a brief period but I didn't. Just rather than 50 drol Ed, 50 (eod) on workout days. So basically half the MG on a weekly basis. I guess another approach could be to both half the dose and do eod, probably better for health but that'd be a pretty low total weekly dosage

I always split orals, and take the same total mg on off days. They still need to build up in your system and stay level. Don’t think taking them that sporadically would be as effective

 

[aHarness]

So insightful as always

Bro what did you want me to say lol. Stop asking basic questions if you don’t want basic answers.

 

[Sectør]

Man, I think anadrol is my new favorite oral.

100mg ed. The water just seems to go into all the right places (intramuscular retention), giving a nice full look. No real sub-q water bloat to speak on, which was one of my initial concerns.

the weights also just feel ridiculously light.

Cosmetically, I’d probably put it up there with winstrol for being my favorite, but obviously they serve different functions where winstrol is more of a dry, hard vascular look with some strength—and anadrol is more of a full, vascular look with a fuckload of strength

 

[ScoobyPrep]

I only use them if prepping.

Its like anything there are guys who drink for lifetime never getting cirrohsis but plenty do

Liver is the detox organ, some peoples work really well. Others get their detox abilities lowered from stress, life, environment, bad gut causing malabsorption of nutrients. You really just dont know. You can test your methylation on a DUTCH test to see though.

Like me I have MTHFR, i need SAMe, methyl folate and methyl b12 to methylate properly. My dad diet at 73 of parkinsons and dementia hes the one that taught me about diet, nutrition and exercise. But i think he had this same issue. I just knew to test for it. He also took a statin when i told him not to.

My point is you dont always know what your genetic make up is. I had a buddy die around 2013 his favorite oral was anadrol. Beat liver cancer then got leukemia if memory serves me right.

Id say with the nice effects of test, mast/primo and gh why risk it. Year round just sounds irresponsible and not needed.

 

[TexasBoy]

Use orals just on prep . The older I get the more orals mess with my digestion

 

[pins]

I do drol and dbol combined 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off nonstop.Been doing this for years.Along with test and deca

 

[steve0691]

I would get blood work, specifically lipid panel/apoB levels checked off orals and then compare to when ur taking them, youll probably rethink taking them year round

 

[Scuncknuts]

I haven't taken an oral steroid in 6 years probably

 

[Scuncknuts]

Ran methylstenbalone for about 6 months once and it basically stopped working. I did not gain any size past probably 6 weeks the acne and anger was just crazy at some point. Halo test made me feel like death in 5 weeks no mas

 

[Scuncknuts]

I do drol and dbol combined 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off nonstop.Been doing this for years.Along with test and deca

I did that for years superdrol msten halo, m1t many other old school prohormones. Like a Rollercoaster of death

 

[marssel]

Whenever I talk to 90s bodybuilders it seems they all used to blast orals year round. None of them had TUDCA either. What’s your thoughts on orals? Personally I run them year round. I love anadrol, proviron and superdrol.

Yea i started in 98 and I rotate strengths but I pretty much take/took orals year round especially Turinabol and anavar

 

[AllLoadedUp]

I tried some Dbol years ago. Couldn't tolerate the back pumps. I just stuck to injectables. I got some Superdrol about 5 yrs ago. Tried running 30mg a day but after about 2 weeks I just didn't like how I felt on it. So I threw it in the drawer. About a week ago I looked and I have 29 pills left. So I'm running 10mg per day until its done. Been on it about a week. My body is so damn tight its crazy. I was on the Elliptical tonight and my legs were so damn pumped they felt like they were gonna explode. I'll be 52 soon. I don't think 10mg a day will really hurt me for only 29 days. I may have blood work done just to see how things look but I don't expect things to be wacko with such a low dose. But who knows till I check.

 

[Siggy]

I tried some Dbol years ago. Couldn't tolerate the back pumps. I just stuck to injectables. I got some Superdrol about 5 yrs ago. Tried running 30mg a day but after about 2 weeks I just didn't like how I felt on it. So I threw it in the drawer. About a week ago I looked and I have 29 pills left. So I'm running 10mg per day until its done. Been on it about a week. My body is so damn tight its crazy. I was on the Elliptical tonight and my legs were so damn pumped they felt like they were gonna explode. I'll be 52 soon. I don't think 10mg a day will really hurt me for only 29 days. I may have blood work done just to see how things look but I don't expect things to be wacko with such a low dose. But who knows till I check.

Yea dbol is potent. Recently I was running 10mg a day for about a year. Like 1 or 2 weeks after I dropping it I lost significant strength and my arms looked half an inch smaller. From just 10mg daily. I dont like that, no more orals for me year round. Cutting only and probably winstrol only . I really despise fake water weight/size and artificial strength.

 

[Sambo44]

Oh for sure not with Dbol.
I’ve posted this story before, but I had a friend who had a package come in that was damaged, his packet of 100 Dbol were mostly crushed. So he crushed them down all the way and threw them in a Preworkout container. Put it in the back of his pantry and forgot about it

Years later he ran out of Pre and found it again, forgetting about the Dbol. He took it for 4-6 weeks when he was supposed to be in a cruise phase, and was wondering why he was having great workouts.. but also wondering why he was a water buffalo, his blood pressure was through the roof, headaches, and bloodwork came back looking like shit

Until it clicked

I would think it would be no different than someone who drinks alcohol daily , now is that beer ,or hard liquor alcohol lol ? Don’t know , I’ve heard some of the old timers talking about being on anadrol for years straight with no breaks lol, as well as others talking about long term usage of oral steroids , they had no internet back then , or forums like this with tons of helpful information ,so they were just winging it back then , also ,probably depends on the person of course, one person could be just fine , the other could have serious liver issues from it , now oral steroids and alcohol together seems like a recipe for disaster to me anyway, but the liver can heal itself, I’m more worried about the heart and kidneys that can’t regenerate

 

[KillerStack]

The Bulgarian weightlifters claimed they did 15,000mg a day of dbol for a few days before comps. How true this was and what the true context was I don't know. One powerlifting poster, probably was here posting too said he took at least 500mg a day before comps. I know a a guy personally who who once took 300 tabs of Akrihin a day and had heart burn lol. Bencher Scott Mendelspn supposedly claimed he took 20 Anadrol before comps. I think some people here know him so could perhaps verify.

I'm not denigrating your theory of dbol being more dangerous than Anadrol, just not seeing the data. As far as I know Anadrol used to be the only AAS that was sort of ditectly linked to liver cancer according to the prescribing info, therefore being the most dangerous. I remember the Akrihin dose range went from 10-50mg a day for 8 or 10 weeks. In my young foolish days we would would empty 3 strips and about 3-5 50mg Turkish Ephedrines and downed it all with a pot of coffee.

 

[phoenix2]

I wish it could be done, because i love oral winstrol. It never bothers me on liver enzymes (i take UDCA with it), but lipids take a huge dip. I don't get other sides from winny but i think if you run it year round you'll eventually get serious side effects.
On a side note, if liver enzymes are in range it doesn't mean that you eventually wont develop a liver adenoma.

 

[Sambo44]

I wish it could be done, because i love oral winstrol. It never bothers me on liver enzymes (i take UDCA with it), but lipids take a huge dip. I don't get other sides from winny but i think if you run it year round you'll eventually get serious side effects.
On a side note, if liver enzymes are in range it doesn't mean that you eventually wont develop a liver adenoma.

Phoenix what dose was your favorite when you ran oral winstrol?

 

[phoenix2]

Phoenix what dose was your favorite when you ran oral winstrol?

I see physical changes with as little as 20 mg per day. But at 40 mg daily It really shines. Usually i run 40 mg per day for 6-8 weeks. I've never gone above 50 mg per day. Obviously you have to be at low bodyfat to see that changes. Combined with masteron is fantastic.

 

[Goodfella1988]

I tried some Dbol years ago. Couldn't tolerate the back pumps. I just stuck to injectables. I got some Superdrol about 5 yrs ago. Tried running 30mg a day but after about 2 weeks I just didn't like how I felt on it. So I threw it in the drawer. About a week ago I looked and I have 29 pills left. So I'm running 10mg per day until its done. Been on it about a week. My body is so damn tight its crazy. I was on the Elliptical tonight and my legs were so damn pumped they felt like they were gonna explode. I'll be 52 soon. I don't think 10mg a day will really hurt me for only 29 days. I may have blood work done just to see how things look but I don't expect things to be wacko with such a low dose. But who knows till I check.

10 mg superdrol for 30 days is pretty ideal. That's what I focus on if I choose to use the oral of it. A lot more manageable at that dose and length. Can do some interesting stuff for to your muscles on just 10 mg's (fuller/harder/pumps).