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phil 192 bucks for a case of aminos?
Not all year long reload but I average 500 grams of protein easily a day.Reload said:Massive G...do you eat like this all year long? If so, how's your HDL to LDL ratio on this amount of red meat? How's the BUN/Creatinine levels responding to the levels of protein in your system? Reason I ask is recently I've had to take a long hard look at my longevity in this sport due to some health issuues.
I've eaten every 2-3 hours for years now...and I've grown so sick of the routine of cooking, bagging, eating, and cleaning. The mere sight of a chicken breast makes me want to gag these days.
It so true though...what separates those who achieve the unnatural is in direct coorelation with the amount of time one spends in the kitcken preparing and planning meals. It's not rocket science, it's simply eating every 2-3 hours (But it's the hardest thing in the world to be consistent with on a daily basis).
These days I want a Pharm grade IV amino source with a port-a-cath to stick it into! lol
big_byrd52 said:hey MG, in the last link ur posted ur workout:
An example of a MG traditional routine today would be:
Chest Shoulders Triceps
Incline Smith Presses- 3 x 5-6, 1 x 8+ 2-3 RP x 2-3 reps.
DB Bench Press- 1 x 8
DB Flye Stretch
Presses B/Neck-3 x 5-6 1 x 8 + 2 RP x 2-3 reps
DB side lateral-1 x 8
Shoulder Stretch
Triceps
Closegrip BP-2 x 5 , 1 x 8 + 2 RP x 2-3 reps
Seated French Press-1 x 8
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Whats the rest of it look like? and are the 3 x 5-6 in the beginning just warmup sets?
PHIL HERNON said:DC, the rumor going around is that you went to M.I.T.? True? If it is, it answers all of my questions as to why you know so much!
dirkmoneyshot said:PHIL how many bottles are in a case???
PHIL HERNON said:I split it in half, 1 set per muscle group.No partials, static, forced or negatives just yet. This is my first week, so I will keep you updated.
hardkor said:Phil,
How do you split your two workouts?
PHIL HERNON said:Without giving away any of Dantes ideas on here, here is how I tweaked it for me. Instead of rest/pause, I go to a different exercise for that same musclegroup but only wait about 5 seconds. Basically 1 set per bodypart.
My diet is strange. I use synthepure and liquid aminos from beef only for protein. I eat a lot of macadamia nuts, fruit, and broccoli. If you want to seperate yourself from everyone else, you must eat different than anyone else. Eating and supplementation is more important than training in my opinion. Any and all can lift weights. Not many can diet properly. Honestly guys, the way I hear some talk about cheat days and pizza and drinking etc..dont expect to ever be a pro. The hours OUT of the gym are more important than the hours in the gym. This is why many routines basically do the same thing. Natural supplements are VERY IMPORTANT! I take buffered creatine and a super multi-mineral every day. I use synthergine everyday! Dont go over 400iu of vitamin E per day, use omega-3 oils, olive oil, garlic, tomatoes, blueberries, broccoli, apple cider vinegar every day somewhere in your diet. I take a childrens aspirin every day, green tea exteact, melatonin, coQ10,and ALA every day. I do this NOW, when I was competing it was more, hahahahaaahahah
mike ross said:phil definitely knows his shit when it comes to the supplemental aids. got me hooked on the beef aminos, they taste great, and the buffered creatine. both work really well and are cheap.
TooPowerful4u said:I for one didnt work directly with DC but i read as much as i possibly could and followed it the best way i knew from all that i read and researches (slacked on diet a lil) and i was the strongest iv ever been, stronger than i am now actually. I have a friend who swears he tried it and quote, "my body was like wtf is this bs this is nothing". He said it was not even close to enough for him and very easy. I told him he obviously did it wrong, he disagreed n said it simply doesnt work so "dont belive the hype". I personally think it works great, the track record more than proves itself, and it keeps getting bigger and bigger. Next time i bulk, u can bet 100% im back on it no doubt.
your2slow said:I just put on 16-17 lbs in 6 weeks with little to no fat gain working with Dante. That was super supp free. Trust me it works.
How many times a week are you training on this routine, it looks very intense. I assume you are hitting each bodypart only 1 time a week?Massive G said:Rest of my routine..like the back bis legs etc?
Machine Pullovers-2 x 5
Reverse Grip Chins or pulldowns-*1 x 5, 1 x F + 2 rest pause
sets(RP) x 2-3 reps.
Barbell bent rows-*1 x 5, 1 x 8 1 x 4
Rack pulls-2 x 5-8
Stretch.
*1 Arm Hammer Preachers-2 x 5
Barbell Preachers-*1 x 5, 1 x F + 2 RP x 2-3 reps.
Reverse BB Curls-1 x 8 + 2 RP x 2-3 reps.
Stretch.
Incline Sit ups-2 x 10, 1 x F + 2 x 5 DS DS=descending sets.
Leg Raises-2 x 10, 1 x F = 2 DS x 5 reps
Legs-
Lying leg curl 2 x 5*
Leg Extensions 2 x 5*
Leg Extensions-1 x 8
Leg Press-2 x 5, 1 X 8 1 x 5 after normal rest follow with reduced weight for 1 x 20.
Lying Leg Curls-2 x 5, 1 x F + 2 RP x 3 reps
Stifflegged deadlifts-1 x 8
Calves
Seated calf raises-2 x 10, 1 x F + 2 RP x 2-3 reps (reps are done very slowly)
This is a variation from DC's program and will vary from time to time.
My differences are that it takes me a very very long time to warm up intially.
So if I begin with Chest I start my work out by doing 3-5 minutes of light cardio which at 290 or so gets the body temp up quick.
I then do some very very light dumbell work and stretches for chest shoulders and tris.
then 1-2 sets of flat flye/presses for 5 reps.
then move on to Incline Presses (I wanna be warmed up from my hair tips on the top of my head to my toenails.)
Example:
255 x 5, 315 x 5, 365 x 3-5, 385 x 3 then work set of 425-435 x 8
The reps on the warm up are done normal tempo and no where near failure hence the low number I hate high reps and you'll never see me do the traditional 15 12 10 8 pyramid scheme even to warm up. I keep my reps low and weights high.
Anyway I think I hijacked Phils thread and it was about Phil and DC so sorry for that I just saw sooo musch good information in here I had to comment.
I hate posting routines because people can become confused and quickly copy and overtrain. I know my body and most of the time will do another exercise extra to hit the large muscle groups. Many can't recoup from that and I do some things with my recovery that are different sometimes I cruise sometimes I take a week off training and just do cardio and then jump right into blasting you have to know your body and I think that is they key to this whole thread.
PHIL HERNON said:You been ok? Give m ea call, I need your expertise. BTW, MIke Ross , along with DOGGCRAPP, is probably the smartest guy I know.