Explaining LBA ( FINAL VERSION)

[SHOTGUN]

IDS

Are the IDS New Whey tubes good as well? They are basically all Hydrolyzed Pork Collagen with Amino's added as well.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

QUESTION

Are the IDS New Whey tubes good as well? They are basically all Hydrolyzed Pork Collagen with Amino's added as well.

IF THEY ARE WHEY TUBES HOW CAN THEY BE PORK COLLAGEN???

 

[petedw]

LISTEN TO PHIL!!

IF THEY ARE WHEY TUBES HOW CAN THEY BE PORK COLLAGEN???

IDS New Whey Liquid Protein Ingredients;

67.4% Pure Deionized Water, 31.5% Actinase (Patent Pending Blend Of Enzymatically Hydrolyzed (Predigested) Collagenic Protein Whey Protein Isolate, Casein Protein Isolate), less that 2% of Malic Acid, Myovol™ Complex [Proprietary Blend Of Leucine, Valine, Isoleucine], All Natural Flavors, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose, Blue #1, Red #40.

Looks like another Whey product to me!

No disrespect but why do people keep asking if other products are the same as LBAs? Why not just listen to Phil and use LBAs like he recommends!

 

[Kane]

No disrespect but why do people keep asking if other products are the same as LBAs? Why not just listen to Phil and use LBAs like he recommends!

Because there are people that no matter what you tell them they have to go against it.. It's annoying.

 

[bigman1]

petedw and Kane why cant people ask questions? Before you get all fired up with me please understand there are new people to the board, sport etc and some do not understand all of the science behind what is being said and SO many companies and boards spew total crap in order to sell certain goods and I know you can not disagree with me on this. Now with that said I'm sure since Phil is in it for the sport and to help others on the board he is and should be more then happy to answer even the ones who question what he is saying. YES some answers can be had from doing a search but other members seem to be asking very good questions not doubting Phil or the product rather finding out the best way to spend their money wisely.

 

[Kane]

Nothing wrong with asking questions but when the same ones keep getting asked over and over again, it can get annoying. Especially when the majority of the questions were answered in one of the countless LBA threads.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

TRY THIS

petedw and Kane why cant people ask questions? Before you get all fired up with me please understand there are new people to the board, sport etc and some do not understand all of the science behind what is being said and SO many companies and boards spew total crap in order to sell certain goods and I know you can not disagree with me on this. Now with that said I'm sure since Phil is in it for the sport and to help others on the board he is and should be more then happy to answer even the ones who question what he is saying. YES some answers can be had from doing a search but other members seem to be asking very good questions not doubting Phil or the product rather finding out the best way to spend their money wisely.

TRY USING THEM YOURSELF AND COMING TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.....WIN/WIN

 

[gordo14]

I'm sorry...........

I'm not new here, but what is this LBA you speak of? Is it some sort of alien DNA that will push us geneticaly to the next level?????
Just kidding.

 

[bigman1]

Phil no need for me to try them...I have used them and like them, just dont get them here..No offense....the thread from me was more about allowing others to ask questions and to get answers from you or any others who have thoughts on them. I do not use them as much as some do but none the less I have used them and they have their place in this game. I just feel some of us jump down so many throats when we ask questions or dare we push back with our thoughts when other so much believe in a product. I just think we are here to learn and do not want to waste our money anymore and in this game you come to know so many people or companies are out to just get a quick buck and more and more peole are aware of this and asking very good questions...

 

[SHOTGUN]

Sorry guys...

I am by NO MEANS new to this industry.... My reason for asking is that I actually sell the raw ingredients to damn near every nutritional copacker in North America (The Supp companies are ONLY marketing companies they dont make supplements). I sell Hydrolyzed Beef and Pork Collagen as well as regular amino acids... Actinase is the majority protein source in the IDS New Whey Product... I sell it to their Co-Packer.. It is Hydrolyzed Pork Collagen.... Being that Regular Amino Acid tablets are Compressed Hyrolyzed Whey protein or Milk protein.. I assume LBA's Hydrolyzed Beef Collagen in a concentrated liquid.. Since that is what is the main protein source in NEW WHEY I ventured to connect the dots.. I am all for the promotion of LBA's... I just didn't see them as anything all that new is all. No offense to anyone on the board.

 

[SHOTGUN]

The first Protein listed in Hydrolyzed Collagen?!? How does it look like another WHEY protein to you?? It has WPI listed as well as Casein... BUT the first protein is Collagen.. I dont see to many WHEY's with Collagen listed as the first source of protein. But hey... What do I know.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

QUESTION

I am by NO MEANS new to this industry.... My reason for asking is that I actually sell the raw ingredients to damn near every nutritional copacker in North America (The Supp companies are ONLY marketing companies they dont make supplements). I sell Hydrolyzed Beef and Pork Collagen as well as regular amino acids... Actinase is the majority protein source in the IDS New Whey Product... I sell it to their Co-Packer.. It is Hydrolyzed Pork Collagen.... Being that Regular Amino Acid tablets are Compressed Hyrolyzed Whey protein or Milk protein.. I assume LBA's Hydrolyzed Beef Collagen in a concentrated liquid.. Since that is what is the main protein source in NEW WHEY I ventured to connect the dots.. I am all for the promotion of LBA's... I just didn't see them as anything all that new is all. No offense to anyone on the board.

WHO SAID IT WAS NEW? I AM SAYING HOW MUCH I LIKE IT AND HOW WELL IT WORKS.......I HAVE BEEN USING IT FOR 15 YEARS.......ITS NOT NEW.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

WELL..

The first Protein listed in Hydrolyzed Collagen?!? How does it look like another WHEY protein to you?? It has WPI listed as well as Casein... BUT the first protein is Collagen.. I dont see to many WHEY's with Collagen listed as the first source of protein. But hey... What do I know.

........USE LBA AND PEPTO PRO INSTEAD OF THOSE IDSs

 

[SHOTGUN]

DSM's PeptoPro is a great product.. No doubt.

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

DSM's PeptoPro is a great product.. No doubt.

I use Dantes.......any flavor you want, any additive.....those are my meal.........LBAs in Between meals....TRUST ME ON THIS ....awesome

 

[tribestantroy]

protein factory peptopro

any opinions of their version of peptopro?

would you use this powder the same as any other hydrolyzed aminos and consider one gram of it to be equal to about 10-15 grams of food protein?

 

[chris250]

bump - im going to be using them for the first time this week

chris

 

[terryd5150]

Just my opinion.....

Are the IDS New Whey tubes good as well? They are basically all Hydrolyzed Pork Collagen with Amino's added as well.

Pork = pigs

Pigs will eat shit (literally).

So, the equation now looks like this:

Pork protein = shit (or fecal matter if you want a more pleasant sounding equation).

Just because something contains proteins doesn't mean they are going to be of a usable quality for BB purposes.

 

[Copenhagen]

Pork = pigs

Pigs will eat shit (literally).

So, the equation now looks like this:

Pork protein = shit (or fecal matter if you want a more pleasant sounding equation).

Just because something contains proteins doesn't mean they are going to be of a usable quality for BB purposes.

I suggest you visit a farm some time man. Pigs dont eat shit.

 

[terryd5150]

I suggest you visit a farm some time man. Pigs dont eat shit.

Lived on one bro.


Seen it occur repeatedly.


Anything else?