Going on 9 weeks into first cycle, concerned about bunk gear

[MissyM]

First ever cycle, 5 weeks of dbol at 30mg a day, 600mg Test-e @ 2x300 shots a week. Started at 195 and def. noticed some changes at the end of the dbol cycle, got up to 205 at the end of the 5th week. Problem is that since then I've lost 2 lbs. and a bit of strength. Testicles are nearly back to normal. Thinking the test-e must not be legit. Was going to to 12 weeks alltogether, but now I'm wondering if PCT will be messed up. I don't believe this is normal, but wanted input from guys that have been there. I didn't have any bloodwork done. I expected more from my first cycle. Diet is good, up around 4500 calories a day.

 

[SYG]

Odd, you should be seeing gains in strength and size from the test by now (with diet and training being on). Don't tell us where you got it, but what test e are you doing (brand)?

 

[MissyM]

Odd, you should be seeing gains in strength and size from the test by now (with diet and training being on). Don't tell us where you got it, but what test e are you doing (brand)?

Well it came from a boad sponsor and the brand is the sponsor's name so I can't say without giving it away. I thought I'd get a lot better gains than this considering it is my first cycle.

 

[DrivingForward]

It does sound like the DBOL was legit, because you had an instant weight and strength increase. Questionable about the Test-E though..

Are you significantly lower in bodyfat perhaps?

Taking an Anti-E (so you have less water retention)?

Taking Finasteride for hairloss (Some guys claim this kills their gains)?

Sure that its 4500 Cals?

If you strength is down slightly, is it possible that you've overtrained and need a week off?

Whats your Libido like?

Can you PM me the name of the TEST E?

 

[MissyM]

It does sound like the DBOL was legit, because you had an instant weight and strength increase. Questionable about the Test-E though..

Are you significantly lower in bodyfat perhaps?

Taking an Anti-E (so you have less water retention)?

Taking Finasteride for hairloss (Some guys claim this kills their gains)?

Sure that its 4500 Cals?

If you strength is down slightly, is it possible that you've overtrained and need a week off?

Whats your Libido like?

Can you PM me the name of the TEST E?

I have somewhat low bf, around 9%. No anti E. No finasteride. Def. 4500 cals. Libido is very high but always seems to be. I def. felt testicle shrinkage, but I'm assuming it was from the DBOL. I believe the Dbol was legit, came from RBB and I felt enough of the sides to feel it was good. I was getting the back pumps, ect. I will pm you the company.

 

[ironwill2006]

I have somewhat low bf, around 9%. No anti E. No finasteride. Def. 4500 cals. Libido is very high but always seems to be. I def. felt testicle shrinkage, but I'm assuming it was from the DBOL. I believe the Dbol was legit, came from RBB and I felt enough of the sides to feel it was good. I was getting the back pumps, ect. I will pm you the company.

You should really pick up one of those saliva hormone testing kits, then you know for sure and can report the source and help everyone out. I'm pretty sure they're not too expensive.

And you should be ramping the cals up every 3-4 weeks when bulking. Also miaybe need more water bro. Just because people usually look like shit on dbol and you say you're at 9% and only dropped 2lbs? Sounds more like t-bol... I love t-bol.

 

[2evil]

You should really pick up one of those saliva hormone testing kits, then you know for sure and can report the source and help everyone out. I'm pretty sure they're not too expensive.

And you should be ramping the cals up every 3-4 weeks when bulking. Also miaybe need more water bro. Just because people usually look like shit on dbol and you say you're at 9% and only dropped 2lbs? Sounds more like t-bol... I love t-bol.

You can actually get a blood test for even less if you look around and find a coupon code. But yeah - get some kinda test done.

 

[MissyM]

You can actually get a blood test for even less if you look around and find a coupon code. But yeah - get some kinda test done.

Where do you get this done? Are you talking about a local lab or something else? I don't know about where to get these tests other than through a local lab and I think they are fairly expensive.

 

[2evil]

Where do you get this done? Are you talking about a local lab or something else? I don't know about where to get these tests other than through a local lab and I think they are fairly expensive.

I use Online blood testing lab tests, STD testing blood tests lab test by Private MD . If you google them and "coupon code" you can usually find a good coupon. You really only need total serum test to see if your test is bunk or not.

 

[lackeydog2]

Damn that sucks bro deff let us no the results if you get a test done an could you pm me the company also?

 

[deathklok]

hmmmmm,first time user and you only gained 10lbs on the D and lost 2 when on the test-e?!
my "opinion",is that the d-bol was not full dosage or maybe chemical components are weaker than other labs but not fake or bunk there is alot of that going around,and the test-e sounds like a totally screwed deal,i would think depending on your genetics you should be standing at like 25-30lbs gain,for a first time user!
11 yrs ago when i did my first cycle i only used sustanon 250mg every week,and i gained 33lbs in 10 weeks,when your a first timer the gains are usually hard to hide if you get my drift,usually you will have people asking what your doing or taking lol......but yes i would get a test done deff!

 

[nickman1978]

have you ever takin any prohormones?

If you could please pm me the name also that would be great.
thanx....

 

[MissyM]

I use Online blood testing lab tests, STD testing blood tests lab test by Private MD . If you google them and "coupon code" you can usually find a good coupon. You really only need total serum test to see if your test is bunk or not.

Which test would be the best one to get? Thank you for this information!

 

[galioth13]

please keep us updated.... i also have the same stuff you have.... wondering if i should use it now

 

[Invrt]

I use Online blood testing lab tests, STD testing blood tests lab test by Private MD . If you google them and "coupon code" you can usually find a good coupon. You really only need total serum test to see if your test is bunk or not.

Before you bash a board sponsor make sure you get your bloodwork done. This is a post from another forum where the guy was having the same problems as you in regards to weight gain.....If you get the BW done and it shows your test level in the toilet bash away bro.....

Well I got good news and I have bad news. The doc called me yesterday and told me he had the test results. He begin to say that my test levels were almost 5,000!!!! He then reminded me that my Blood pressure was 187/90 and my BPM was 87. He then proceeded to tell me he's not suprised I was having problems gaining weight, He then informed me that my thyroid is hyperactive. The way he put it he said I could've ate a horse everyday and my body would still manage to burn off every calorie. He advised me to start PCT immediately and come back in a month or so and get a follow-up. I told him that I always had a fast metabolism and always had problems gaining and mainting weight. He believes that the huge in-balance in hormones amplified my condition.

Now with that said. I knew something was not right. I was also wrong to blame the gear (I do admit when I am wrong ) But Im sure allot of you can appreciate my frustration when I was eating an average bulking diet taking AAS, training my ass off knowing that every other person in my shoes would have seen good gains and I wasn't. I asked the doc If I were to have taken less test-c could I have avoided this situation, he said its a great possibility. I followed the proper protocol for a first time AAS user, 500mg test and 400mg eq. My situation is a great example on how a first timer should NOT take any more than 400-500mg of test a week, and to get blood test in mid-cycle. Thank's for all your support. As promised I will keep you all updated regardless its good news or bad news......

 

[repmks]

First ever cycle, 5 weeks of dbol at 30mg a day, 600mg Test-e @ 2x300 shots a week. Started at 195 and def. noticed some changes at the end of the dbol cycle, got up to 205 at the end of the 5th week. Problem is that since then I've lost 2 lbs. and a bit of strength. Testicles are nearly back to normal. Thinking the test-e must not be legit. Was going to to 12 weeks alltogether, but now I'm wondering if PCT will be messed up. I don't believe this is normal, but wanted input from guys that have been there. I didn't have any bloodwork done. I expected more from my first cycle. Diet is good, up around 4500 calories a day.

idk why people always say you have to wait 4 weeks to feel test e.. i start feeling pumps n fullness within a few days of starting.