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Just bringing up something that has been discussed here earlier, I found a old thread where Magnum and Edge250 contributed a lot, but I would like to bring up the discussion again.
How much testosterone should be used in proportion to anabolics or other steroids for mass gain?
Many use test as a solid base, like 750mg ew and put on eq or deca at a somewhat lower dose of 300-600mg. Others prefer to use test just to replace natural test or slightly more like 150-250mg ew, and let the main base of the cycle consist of anabolics at higher doses 400-600 of one or several compunds. I would just like inputs and thoughts on what works best.
I myself don't get any noticeable sides from running test up to 750mg(never gone higher). The first year of aas use and use of test, I got very blothed. But now after some years I don't bloth at all, and can with no problem diet down and stay very lean hold little water on just test. I found out it all comes
down to the diet.
On the other side I can not really speak of how well test work as a mass builder on it's own. I'm not so sure how much I've really gained beeing on just test even though I done this several times. At least I hold my mass. But when I try to remember, one of my best gains was when I gained 7lbs in 4 months between two contests, That was when I used eq for the first time at 300mg ew with 500mg test, I probably also had a nice rebound effect after the first contest. I also remember a couple of years ago I remember I did some cycles of just 50mg winstrol stacked with 25mg adrol ed, can't remember how much I gained, but remember I felt great, got nice pumps and recommended this cycle to others.
Only times I've not used test is last 4-6 weeks before contest to drop of water, and can't really say anything about mass building effect from cutting it out and replace with pure anabolics/androgens at this stages.
I have a friend, a top level amateur competitor, he do the other way. He only use test at 250mg every tenth day, and use drugs like masteron and primo at 500mg together ew even when he bulks (stays on 3iu gh all year besides). He grows slow but stays in decent shape all year and carry a great amount of mass. He just won national championship and then one week later Scandinavian championship. Also two IFBB pros in my city I know rely mostly on anabolics like this most of the year.
Hows 1g of test compared to 250mg and 750mg anabolics in the off season. Anyone tried both?
How much testosterone should be used in proportion to anabolics or other steroids for mass gain?
Many use test as a solid base, like 750mg ew and put on eq or deca at a somewhat lower dose of 300-600mg. Others prefer to use test just to replace natural test or slightly more like 150-250mg ew, and let the main base of the cycle consist of anabolics at higher doses 400-600 of one or several compunds. I would just like inputs and thoughts on what works best.
I myself don't get any noticeable sides from running test up to 750mg(never gone higher). The first year of aas use and use of test, I got very blothed. But now after some years I don't bloth at all, and can with no problem diet down and stay very lean hold little water on just test. I found out it all comes
down to the diet.
On the other side I can not really speak of how well test work as a mass builder on it's own. I'm not so sure how much I've really gained beeing on just test even though I done this several times. At least I hold my mass. But when I try to remember, one of my best gains was when I gained 7lbs in 4 months between two contests, That was when I used eq for the first time at 300mg ew with 500mg test, I probably also had a nice rebound effect after the first contest. I also remember a couple of years ago I remember I did some cycles of just 50mg winstrol stacked with 25mg adrol ed, can't remember how much I gained, but remember I felt great, got nice pumps and recommended this cycle to others.
Only times I've not used test is last 4-6 weeks before contest to drop of water, and can't really say anything about mass building effect from cutting it out and replace with pure anabolics/androgens at this stages.
I have a friend, a top level amateur competitor, he do the other way. He only use test at 250mg every tenth day, and use drugs like masteron and primo at 500mg together ew even when he bulks (stays on 3iu gh all year besides). He grows slow but stays in decent shape all year and carry a great amount of mass. He just won national championship and then one week later Scandinavian championship. Also two IFBB pros in my city I know rely mostly on anabolics like this most of the year.
Hows 1g of test compared to 250mg and 750mg anabolics in the off season. Anyone tried both?
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