im on the keto diet and..............

[mexikaz]

flat as hell!!!!!!!!!! it looks like just statred working out a few weeks ago.does anyone have in experience with problem.if so some help would be great.

 

[Coopie]

I do.

I love keto. I tend to get heavy easily, so for me keto works great. After 10 days (roughly) in ketosis, have a moderate to high carb day. This will take you out of ketosis and really fill your muscles. It's also a great mental break. Then start the keto diet over again. Yes, in that one or two "cheat" days you will gain weight, but it's not a bad thing...

 

[gorilla2015]

Increase your fats alittle and it takes anywhere between 10-14 days for your body to switch/ adjust from carbs to fat . Do a search on dave palumbo and really look into his ideas.....for getting lean / sparing muscle his diet works great but there a many ways to do a keto .

 

[youngmuscle]

hey guys... could someone help me out... in regards to fats vs. carbs

i tend to put on the pounds pretty easily hen im eating carbs. not really because of the carbs i dont think...but just because carbs are so damn addicting, and they dont fill me up at all. lol. so for myself..i PREFER to eat healthy fats for energy instead of complex carbs. now, i always eat some complex carbs before i workout, but other than that....do any of you guys know if there is a difference between consuming carbs and fats for energy throughout the rest of the day...?

i am currently in a mass phase...and i want to build muscle as quick as possible... can i build muscle just as quickly using fats as energy during the day and at night as i could if i were using carbs as the main source..????

 

[Bloodyshins]

Could you clarify? I do not understand your question...

 

[youngmuscle]

Could you clarify? I do not understand your question...

okay. carbs are the essential source of energy for training. sure. but are carbs the best source of energy for builing muscles? i understand that our bodies are primarily burning fats when we are at rest. and we build muscle when we are at rest. so would fats be BETTER than carbs for an energy source while your resting/not working out.. ??


im interested in what role carbohydrates and fats play in protein synthesis at the cellular level... does one work better than the other, are they equal...or is it just a matter of havign sufficient calories running through the blood stream..?

 

[Bloodyshins]

My advice, not to be a dick, but you need to read some basic nurition books.

 

[youngmuscle]

My advice, not to be a dick, but you need to read some basic nurition books.

ummmmmm

okay


although i dont think that "the role different energy macro nutrients play in protein synthesis" is generally considered basic nutritional knowledge...

but ill be happy to read some books on nutrition that cover that topic, if you could suggest me some.

 

[Bloodyshins]

Start Here. He was my Nutrition Prof in College.

Perspectives in Nutrition
Wardlaw, Gordon (Ohio State University, USA)
Click on author name above for full title listing
Paperback
Edition: 4th ed
944 pages
Photographs, Glossary
Published: 1998
Publisher: McGraw-Hill Education - Europe
ISBN / EAN: 0071158669

Then Go here.

Exercise Physiology: Energy, Nutrition and Human Performance, 5th Edition
William D. McArdle
Frank L. Katch
Victor L. Katch
ISBN: 0-7817-2544-5

also FYI..
Protein biosynthesis (synthesis) is the process in which cells build proteins. The term is sometimes used to refer only to protein translation but more often it refers to a multi-step process, beginning with amino acid synthesis and transcription which are then used for translation. Protein biosynthesis, although very similar, differs between prokaryotes and eukaryotes.

Key here is AMINO ACID SYNTHESIS.......

 

[Bloodyshins]

Young, I'm not hateing on you, I know you are young. I was 18 once too. I didn't know shit when I first started, just what FLEX magazine told me. hahahaa. What i did was become a student of Bbuilding. Read everything I could get my hands on. Lurked on boards. Read EVERYTHING. Did not post much. Just read. Its OK to be new and not know much, but coming to a board like this with very basic beginner questions is foolish.
I know you want people to just GIVE you the answer. I was the same way. I think if you take some time, read the basics, that way when you are given some advice or read something you can take a critical look at it and make your own choice.
I am NO guru. Shit I am just getting my ass into shape after a 3 year layoff.

 

[youngmuscle]

Young, I'm not hateing on you, I know you are young. I was 18 once too. I didn't know shit when I first started, just what FLEX magazine told me. hahahaa. What i did was become a student of Bbuilding. Read everything I could get my hands on. Lurked on boards. Read EVERYTHING. Did not post much. Just read. Its OK to be new and not know much, but coming to a board like this with very basic beginner questions is foolish.
I know you want people to just GIVE you the answer. I was the same way. I think if you take some time, read the basics, that way when you are given some advice or read something you can take a critical look at it and make your own choice.
I am NO guru. Shit I am just getting my ass into shape after a 3 year layoff.

give me my answer!




no but in all seriousness...i am looking for torrents on those books right now.. shoot, ive got a meal coming up i an hour and i want to be damn sure im eating the right things!!!

 

[Bionic]

flat as hell!!!!!!!!!! it looks like just statred working out a few weeks ago.does anyone have in experience with problem.if so some help would be great.

Use LBA's. Your muscles will be full in NO time and it won't kick you out of ketosis. At least it didn't for me.

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

okay. carbs are the essential source of energy for training. sure. but are carbs the best source of energy for builing muscles? i understand that our bodies are primarily burning fats when we are at rest. and we build muscle when we are at rest. so would fats be BETTER than carbs for an energy source while your resting/not working out.. ??


im interested in what role carbohydrates and fats play in protein synthesis at the cellular level... does one work better than the other, are they equal...or is it just a matter of havign sufficient calories running through the blood stream..?

Well carbs release insulin(which is a double edge sword) and could help draw amino acids into the muscle cell greater than fats can. But as we all know to many carbs once glycogen stores are filled up tend to get stored as fat. Its all about finding the right balance for you. Everyone is different. If you tend to gain weight by eating to many carbs... then id say limit them around your workouts/morning. Glycogen storage is greater 6 hours PWO and in the morning upon waking. The rest of the meals keep it pro/fat.

 

[youngmuscle]

Well carbs release insulin(which is a double edge sword) and could help draw amino acids into the muscle cell greater than fats can. But as we all know to many carbs once glycogen stores are filled up tend to get stored as fat. Its all about finding the right balance for you. Everyone is different. If you tend to gain weight by eating to many carbs... then id say limit them around your workouts/morning. Glycogen storage is greater 6 hours PWO and in the morning upon waking. The rest of the meals keep it pro/fat.

thanks alot for the info man.