Insulin intead of HGH

[dragonfire101]

Is HGH even needed for person on the quest to massive muscle beyond AAS abilities. In NO way I'm condoning the use of any drugs, pharmaceuticals etc. without prescription.

I ask because I received a Growth hormone Stimulation Test because I may be deficient and be getting a script hopefully.

The hGH stimulation test, also called HGH Provocation test, Insulin Tolerance, or Arginine test, is performed to test the body's ability to produce human growth hormone, and to identify suspected HGH deficiency. A normal patient can have low HGH levels, but if HGH is still low after stimulation, a diagnosis can be more accurately made.

The Test is as follows.

Insulin-induced hypoglycemia (via intravenous injection of insulin) stimulates HGH and corticotropin secretion as well.

So they give you insulin and your HGH is suppose to go up and blood is drawn every 15min for about 90 min after the insulin administration.

So in theory, bodybuilders who can't afford HGH can work their way up to high doses of insulin/carbs post workout to grow?

I'm just concluding to a theory based on the information above.

 

[Big A]

From my experience, insulin by itself is crap. When done together with HGH it is phenomenal.

 

[dragonfire101]

From my experience, insulin by itself is crap. When done together with HGH it is phenomenal.

Interesting.

Anecdotal experiences and information is very good and often times very true.

Thought it was interesting how HGH is suppose to go up as insulin is given. I guess together that would make a superphysiological phenomenon.

 

[buselmo]

insulin alone kinda sucks. i could never use it and stay lean. always seemed to gain fat.
but that insulin and gh thing, had a friend do that and he loved it. -STEELE

As phil stated before, and as most you know, GH will increase the BGL...
Insulin is a storage hormone, and for those who have tried it (AND DIETED CORRECTLY!!! taking 10 iu slin post training, eating 150 grams of carbs 2 minutes after administration, and another 100 grams 45 minutes later will make anyone fat even if not using slin), they know that it has potential to give a lot of size, and it is easy to store fat with it and increase abdominal growth... most of this is due to the heavy carb intake that is used to raise BGL so that you don't mess up really bad
T3... well, have you ever read the inserts in real pharma grade GH? please do and see why you probably need to be supplementing with T3

combine those 3 pieces of info together, what do you get?




As for what dragonfire101 was saying... i would assume that GH would secreted at higher levels naturally when your glucose level is dangerously low. I would not risk it for a measly extra 1 iu of natural growth hormone production.

 

[DatBtrue]

So in theory, bodybuilders who can't afford HGH can work their way up to high doses of insulin/carbs post workout to grow?

I'm just concluding to a theory based on the information above.

buselmo touched on it.

It is hypoglycemia that induces growth hormone release NOT insulin.

Hypoglycemia is the state where you have below normal blood glucose levels (plasma glucose levels below 70 mg/dl).

It is a catabolic state.

Insulin is used to remove existing blood glucose and drive the body into that state. In that catabolic state normal people secrete GH and therefore they can get a quick snapshot of you GH release profile.

Thats all it is.

 

[dragonfire101]

buselmo touched on it.

It is hypoglycemia that induces growth hormone release NOT insulin.

Hypoglycemia is the state where you have below normal blood glucose levels (plasma glucose levels below 70 mg/dl).

It is a catabolic state.

Insulin is used to remove existing blood glucose and drive the body into that state. In that catabolic state normal people secrete GH and therefore they can get a quick snapshot of you GH release profile.

Thats all it is.

Ya, thought the test was interesting. Anyways, looks like I'm not low so NO script for HGH.

 

[ronnieron]

what about using cjc-1295 + ghrp-6 (instead of hgh), plus insulin?
Ron

 

[Phidias]

As for what dragonfire101 was saying... i would assume that GH would secreted at higher levels naturally when your glucose level is dangerously low.

buselmo touched on it.

It is hypoglycemia that induces growth hormone release NOT insulin.

Hypoglycemia is the state where you have below normal blood glucose levels (plasma glucose levels below 70 mg/dl).

It is a catabolic state.

Insulin is used to remove existing blood glucose and drive the body into that state. In that catabolic state normal people secrete GH and therefore they can get a quick snapshot of you GH release profile.

Thats all it is.

Both posts are right on.