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Mike Morris Interview on GetBig

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Guys, I know topics like these have been done to death, but lets get some comments going.

I took this from over at Getbig, it was from an interview with Mike Morris in which he gave these as his dosages and explained why he retired ( he had kidney problems.)




Were you pretty moderate with your dosages?

There were times when I was doing a heavy cycle. That would be five shots a week. A shot every day of the week and then two days off. A daily shot would include 250 mg. of Sustanon, 200 mg. of Enthanate and 300 mg. of Deca. So that's 3,750 mgs. a week plus orals. I'd usually take one oral at a time, like D-Bol or Anadrol. I can't speak for other bodybuilders, just for myself and what I've done. Anything over that-man, that's a lot of shit to take a shot with that everyday!
 
2250mg test weekly and 1500 mg deca weekly plus orals that is a heavy cycle.
 
at least he is honest,

he didnt use for the olympia wildcard did he?
 
any of you who know this guy know that his huge doeses of anabolics were the least of his troubles.
 
He was pretty awesome looking. MM
 
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|--[\\\]>-------- well AWN and i have had the pleasure of meeting the guy, just moved to our area few mths back and he stops by my gym time to time, man have times changed...his physique is totally dif. now. he is 100% AAS free and it shows. but health comes first. the guy is actually pretty cool to talk to and leaves it all on the table, he will discuss anything openly with you b/c he wants you to learn from what he has done, good or bad..LOL
 
You gotta respect a dude who puts his health first . . .
 
Take whatever MM says with a grain of salt. Bodybuilders are notorious for bending the truth & leaving info out. It's so much more noble to say you quit AAS since it was causing you health problems than to admit to recreational drug use & painkillers. Take Tom Prince as an example. He claims he had kidney problems due to Advil. He conviniently forgot to mention his cocaine, nubain & painkiller abuse. It's so much more acceptable to forgot about those & point your finger at good old Advil. It's the same thing with MM. He didn't have health problems due to AAS. It was his entire lifestyle that brought it on & anyone who trained at Golds knows this.
 
Qwert said:
Take whatever MM says with a grain of salt. Bodybuilders are notorious for bending the truth & leaving info out. It's so much more noble to say you quit AAS since it was causing you health problems than to admit to recreational drug use & painkillers. Take Tom Prince as an example. He claims he had kidney problems due to Advil. He conviniently forgot to mention his cocaine, nubain & painkiller abuse. It's so much more acceptable to forgot about those & point your finger at good old Advil. It's the same thing with MM. He didn't have health problems due to AAS. It was his entire lifestyle that brought it on & anyone who trained at Golds knows this.

I never knew that about Tom Prince, I always believed the whole Advil explanation. That sucks because he was always one of my favorite bodybuilders. Not to say you're not right but where did you hear about the cocaine and painkiller abuse?
 
Qwert.

AMEN most guys have no fucking idea of the truth and what kills me the most are people looking up to these guys , can you imagine looking up to MM as a role model ? the only thing that I can respect of 90% of these guys is the commitment to sacrifice everything for a goal. You gotta give um that.
 
Also Im not judging mike -this is a free country . I really do hope that he has turned things around and finds success.
 
Dont know what he took its his body put in to it whatever he wants. But 3 grams of stuff a week is not that much for being a pro. I have known a few who took take 10grams a week. We should not judge people for their addictions as long as they can support their own habbit and not hurt anyone else.MM
 
massmonster32 said:
Dont know what he took its his body put in to it whatever he wants. But 3 grams of stuff a week is not that much for being a pro. I have known a few who took take 10grams a week. We should not judge people for their addictions as long as they can support their own habbit and not hurt anyone else.MM



I agree and stated not judging him and wish him luck.
 
massmonster32 said:
Dont know what he took its his body put in to it whatever he wants. But 3 grams of stuff a week is not that much for being a pro. I have known a few who took take 10grams a week. We should not judge people for their addictions as long as they can support their own habbit and not hurt anyone else.MM

Exactly. 3g is your basic mg amount for a pro or top amateur. If anything, it's on the low end on things. I've seen 1g a of test, 400mg Deca & 10iu GH a day. This person took no orals though & made sure he took dyazide for his BP, anti e's for estrogen & was on a boatload of anti oxidants. He had blood tests done during his 12 week cycle & although his levels were higher than normal, they were still in the acceptabel range. Mind you, he wasn't out drinking & doing recreation drugs either. He really had no health problems what so ever. He just made sure he planned things out & was smart about it. MM was not smart about his 'lifestyle'. His AAS usage had nothing to do with his health problems.
 
Jwillbc55 said:
I never knew that about Tom Prince, I always believed the whole Advil explanation. That sucks because he was always one of my favorite bodybuilders. Not to say you're not right but where did you hear about the cocaine and painkiller abuse?

DUDE, everyone knows about Tom's drug use/abuse. He's talked about it himself. He was a MAJOR coke & nubain user. Ever notice why Tom used to wear big oversized arm bands covering his elbows? Well, it wasn't to cover his elbows, it was supposedly to cover the track marks on the other side. One of his viens has even compounded supposedly due to too much 'usage' & looks like a deformed hard lump. This was brought up by a guy on MM when he got into a flame fight with Tom & Toms excuse was that it was because of dyalisis & his oddly placed over sized wrist bands were indeed to kep his elbows warm. Wierd thing was that he wore them even outside the gym & he had that compounded vein problem before starting dylaisis. This is all hypothetical of course & Tom could be an alterboy for all we know. Stay off the Advil Tom!!!!

BTW, Tom also doesn't have a Masters Degree as he claims. He entered the MA program but never graduated. All this has been brought up many times on various other boards as well over the years, so it's no secret.
 
People can never deal with something being just simple--it has to be some huge secret conspiracy and some hidden truth. Do I think TP's kidney problems have alot to do with his Advil usage....HELL YES IT DID.

Nine to twelve 800mg advil a day for years? You try that and tell me how long your kidneys last. They wont!

It gets really tiring in this sport when I keep hearing "whats done behind closed doors" by people who read what someone says who lives with his mom in Iowa who heard thru the grapevine by some guy on a computer in Texas--exactly what Tom Prince who lives in CA does. Have these people ever talked to Tom Prince in person? Or is this just more message board bullshit gossip knowledge? I have talked to Tom Prince in person and on the phone in the past (does that count for anything? I guess not) --- do I know everything about TP --nope not in the least but that much admitted Advil usage a day coupled with the chronic high blood pressure he had is going to screw someone up royally longterm. What does he have to lose not telling the truth? Nothing!!!!! He's not even in the public eye or a competitive bber anymore

Im getting really really frustrated with this sport. People screwing themselves up (like Mike Morris) who have taken it upon themselves to abuse THEMSELVES are telling their stories and everyone runs with that--like its the holy grail that every pro does. I reported on this board that I knew of 2 pro's last year in the Olympia that actually won their pro card natural and you yelled bullshit Qwert. ITS A FACT, like it or not and at least one person on this board can back me up with one of those guys (without naming names). One of the most awesome heavyweight bodybuilders who got his pro card in the last 3 years did so on a ridiculously low dose of 2 different compounds (on the level of a 150lb first time user would use)

Enough with the bullshit--I know better and I know not everyone out there is a freaking maniac and daredevil. So people who cant fathom how pro bodybuilders are so much more advanced than themselves can live in this pipe dream reality that "everyone above them" is just using twenty times more of what they are or you can maybe buckle down to the truth that there are many ends of the spectrum here. Theres some awesome bodybuilders on this board , the owner, the aussie pro, the american pro, and the amateur from AZ among others. Does that mean these 4 individuals have in the past or are currently using 10 times the amount of anyone else reading these bodybuilding boards?---no way in hell. Theres guys sitting in the audience at top AM and pro shows that couldnt win the Mr Fargo North Dakota loaded to the damn gills. Peoples ego's in this sport who think "how come I cant look like that?" rationalize that its something they arent doing, instead of the truth (something they dont have) GENETICS. You have seen the pics of Phil Hernon on this board at 23 and Tom Prince when he was 24--MONSTERS. Do you see many other 23,24 year old guys looking like that out there? Think about it--Why?
On the other hand Ive interviewed a pro 10 years ago that was using amounts that would make everyone on this boards jaw drop (and dwarfs Mike Morris dosages)----that same pro has been beaten many many times by people using fractions of what he did/does. This sport is turning into the damn national enquirer with its gossip and "behind the grassy knoll" conspiracy theories
 
DOGGCRAPP said:
People can never deal with something being just simple--it has to be some huge secret conspiracy and some hidden truth. Do I think TP's kidney problems have alot to do with his Advil usage....HELL YES IT DID.

Nine to twelve 800mg advil a day for years? You try that and tell me how long your kidneys last. They wont!

It gets really tiring in this sport when I keep hearing "whats done behind closed doors" by people who read what someone says who lives with his mom in Iowa who heard thru the grapevine by some guy on a computer in Texas--exactly what Tom Prince who lives in CA does. Have these people ever talked to Tom Prince in person? Or is this just more message board bullshit gossip knowledge? I have talked to Tom Prince in person and on the phone in the past (does that count for anything? I guess not) --- do I know everything about TP --nope not in the least but that much admitted Advil usage a day coupled with the chronic high blood pressure he had is going to screw someone up royally longterm. What does he have to lose not telling the truth? Nothing!!!!! He's not even in the public eye or a competitive bber anymore

Im getting really really frustrated with this sport. People screwing themselves up (like Mike Morris) who have taken it upon themselves to abuse THEMSELVES are telling their stories and everyone runs with that--like its the holy grail that every pro does. I reported on this board that I knew of 2 pro's last year in the Olympia that actually won their pro card natural and you yelled bullshit Qwert. ITS A FACT, like it or not and at least one person on this board can back me up with one of those guys (without naming names). One of the most awesome heavyweight bodybuilders who got his pro card in the last 3 years did so on a ridiculously low dose of 2 different compounds (on the level of a 150lb first time user would use)

Enough with the bullshit--I know better and I know not everyone out there is a freaking maniac and daredevil. So people who cant fathom how pro bodybuilders are so much more advanced than themselves can live in this pipe dream reality that "everyone above them" is just using twenty times more of what they are or you can maybe buckle down to the truth that there are many ends of the spectrum here. Theres some awesome bodybuilders on this board , the owner, the aussie pro, the american pro, and the amateur from AZ among others. Does that mean these 4 individuals have in the past or are currently using 10 times the amount of anyone else reading these bodybuilding boards?---no way in hell. Theres guys sitting in the audience at top AM and pro shows that couldnt win the Mr Fargo North Dakota loaded to the damn gills. Peoples ego's in this sport who think "how come I cant look like that?" rationalize that its something they arent doing, instead of the truth (something they dont have) GENETICS. You have seen the pics of Phil Hernon on this board at 23 and Tom Prince when he was 24--MONSTERS. Do you see many other 23,24 year old guys looking like that out there? Think about it--Why?
On the other hand Ive interviewed a pro 10 years ago that was using amounts that would make everyone on this boards jaw drop (and dwarfs Mike Morris dosages)----that same pro has been beaten many many times by people using fractions of what he did/does. This sport is turning into the damn national enquirer with its gossip and "behind the grassy knoll" conspiracy theories

DC, what you say may be true, but you NEVER name names, or have any proof. As much as I respect you, you also sell a product, ie: your training/coaching, & it's more attractive to tell someone you can be a pro with food & training than to say you HAVE to use AAS. I've know, met enough pros to know they're all borderline pathalogical liars when it comes to dosages. They just won't come clean, & why should they. I know a pro here who've I know for 15 years. He tells everyone he uses 2 sus250 & 200mg Deca a week & that's it. Everyone believes him. Yet when I look in his box of goodies, I see tren, EQ, Deca, a ton or differemt orals, a TON of test, GH, IGF & insulin. Either he's holding these for someone, or he's lying. You decide.
 
Qwert said:
DC, what you say may be true, but you NEVER name names, or have any proof. As much as I respect you, you also sell a product, ie: your training/coaching, & it's more attractive to tell someone you can be a pro with food & training than to say you HAVE to use AAS. I've know, met enough pros to know they're all borderline pathalogical liars when it comes to dosages. They just won't come clean, & why should they. I know a pro here who've I know for 15 years. He tells everyone he uses 2 sus250 & 200mg Deca a week & that's it. Everyone believes him. Yet when I look in his box of goodies, I see tren, EQ, Deca, a ton or differemt orals, a TON of test, GH, IGF & insulin. Either he's holding these for someone, or he's lying. You decide.

You want me to name names? Are you kidding me? And you think Im trying to sell something here? Here let me be straight with that right now--I DONT CARE IF I EVER AND I MEAN "EVER" TRAIN ANYONE AGAIN---I COULD CARE LESS. Hows that for marketing? (its a sidejob, I do because people ask me too, no more than that and honestly I'm kind of burnt out by it)

Do you honestly believe that there arent idiot daredevils out there in audiences and on these boards using 2-5 grams of testosterone and other things because they so badly "want to turn pro?" You wont notice them because they simply dont have the genetics to do so.
 
IMO, 95% of the people in the gym using gear will never go pro..if you gota use that much gear to go pro..unless your ingnorant..the potenal for health risks are there.. would I wanna risk my life for a fucking trophy and 30K??
Hell no, regarless of the other varialbles involved ..thats alot of gear and alot a stress on the body...the pros that dont eed that much gear are the ones placing high..genetics is key ..if you dont got em no anount of gear is gnna make ya a pro..(these Days) thsi may have been diffent 20 yrs ago..
 

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