natural test

[tonka2]

I know people have different levels natural test can some one give me a lenk to find out what the average is. I have heard 200 to 450 a week.I just am looking for what the body can produce on its own in a healthy male age 25 to 30

 

[tonka2]

and if i got blood work done would that give me an idea?

 

[Conan21]

300-800 ng/Dl is considered AVERAGE or Normal by most lab. standards.

I've had friends who were natural that tested as high as 1,400 though

 

[GeeNo]

About 4-7 mg daily for adult males. Obviously many factors to take into consideration, including age.

 

[Conan21]

no way

About 4-7 mg daily for adult males. Obviously many factors to take into consideration, including age.

That is not accurate. Firstly, they don't measure blood results in MGs.

Secondly, put someone on with Low Testosterone on 28 to 50 mgs of testosterone a week and and see what their blood levels are. They will be horribly low.

 

[GoneForever]

300-800 ng/Dl is considered AVERAGE or Normal by most lab. standards.

I've had friends who were natural that tested as high as 1,400 though

Really? My fathers endo told me african american males generally have higher test than other races and the highest he has seen was 950. Were your friends on anything? Tribulus perhaps, b/c thats near impossible. 800 is what an 18year old should be at.

 

[Conan21]

Really? My fathers endo told me african american males generally have higher test than other races and the highest he has seen was 950. Were your friends on anything? Tribulus perhaps, b/c thats near impossible. 800 is what an 18year old should be at.

No. the guys I know who had this done were on nothing.

300-800 is Average.
some labs go up to 1,000

but still realize this considered "normal". You can have people who are LOW and HIGH, who are above normal range.

I've read studies were teens can peak at certain times of the day at 1,600. I do not still have links for this but the point is there are people who are natural who are defineatley walking around with more than 800-1,000 ng/dl flowing through their blood stream.

 

[tonka2]

is there away to make what ng/dl mite equal in mgs

 

[KillerStack]

That is not accurate. Firstly, they don't measure blood results in MGs.

Secondly, put someone on with Low Testosterone on 28 to 50 mgs of testosterone a week and and see what their blood levels are. They will be horribly low.

No, he is correct. That is generally said to be what the body produces per week.

You can't compare to a 50mg shot since you have the ester plus it takes a couple of weeks to completely dissipate out of the depot.

 

[KillerStack]

is there away to make what ng/dl mite equal in mgs

Well, according to some HRT docs, 100mg/week of enanthate puts most at about 800ng/dl (ie high normal). I know some gurus say a 250mg shot would equal what a person produces naturally but it will put most above normal, sometimes way above normal.

 

[Conan21]

No, he is correct. That is generally said to be what the body produces per week.

You can't compare to a 50mg shot since you have the ester plus it takes a couple of weeks to completely dissipate out of the depot.

well then how do you compare then? 50 mgs of what? suspension??

I'll be more clear with my statement. a person pumping out ample amounts of natural testosterone is producing WAY more than the equivalence of 4-7 mgs of test Cyp,Enanthate, prop a day.

and I would like to see blood work or atleast first hand testimony that 100 mgs with no HCG will keep someone at 800 or above for a 7 day period. Me personally, i am at 588 on Sunday after a 200 mg dose on Monday with no HCG in the mix.

 

[tonka2]

Thanks conan that is what i what looking for.I still would like a lenk from someone to read up on it.Thank you for the help