New GH theory from the pros? Any Good?

Juice Freak · Feb 4, 2006

I've read a few posts now on this new every third day massive gh shot theory and just had a few questions on it. The theory is that users who use there gh every third day and take a shot of 15ius or 20 ius eg, get better muscle growth then using every day at 5ius. That is the theory and there have a been a few claims that this works better. I'm just curious if anyone on this board has tried it or swears by it? Also would it be bad to break up the shots on the gh day into 3 shots of 5ius for that day or does it have to be all in one shot. This would go great with AP's evey 3rd day insulin theory. Any thoughts or suggestions would be great. Cheers bros.

Big A · Feb 5, 2006

This is Phil's theory and it's been discussed here quite a lot over the years.
It's actually one shot every week.

When I tried it, I really liked it.

haze324 · Feb 5, 2006

I think there was also a post here a while back and Phil was invovled as well about taking it Every Other Day as opposed ED and with EOD you had less of a rebound affect.

Juice Freak · Feb 5, 2006

Sounds good, Phil how did you like this method as oppose to ed, and what were the differences in your results?

TooPowerful4u · Feb 5, 2006

ok every time i hear this subject come up, somebody goes... oh its been discussed here many times. Well iv run a search more than a few times and never seen it gone into any depth? What is the theory on why this works? A lil outline would be nice.

Snarf · Feb 5, 2006

I don't have the study in front of me, but last year some results were published that showed a dose of x once per day did not perform as well as a dose of 2x every other day.

The overall dose is the same, but you are more closely mimicking the pulse dose of GH that the body releases into your bloodstream.

This was a very well designed and controlled study.

I have no idea if every 3 days is better or once a week as was mentioned.

Big Bapper · Feb 5, 2006

GH EOD

Was using 6iu Ed for months and changed 3 weeks ago to 12iu EOD. So far I am loveing the results. Think EOD at higher doses works allot better, well for me anyway.

PHIL HERNON · Feb 5, 2006

After everything

I would do 2 iu EOD.

edge250 · Feb 5, 2006

doesnt the body naturally produce .5-1.5iu per day? so if your taking 2iu...........

TooPowerful4u · Feb 5, 2006

nobody ever wants to give out the REAL good info for free lol. When people say there arent any secrets... yes there is haha

Qwert · Feb 6, 2006

TooPowerful4u said:
nobody ever wants to give out the REAL good info for free lol. When people say there arent any secrets... yes there is haha

You nailed it!!!! You have to take all the info you hear on the BB msg boards with a grain of salt. No one will tell you the truth for free. I can't for the life of me understand how 2iu eod would be beneficial to anyone, unless they were old & needed it for HRT. Even then, 2iu eod is less that the Dr perscribed dose. Now, if you're a young bodybuilder, 2iu eod makes no sense. Nor does doing one huge dose only once a week. The best results for any drug is an even dose being administered regularly. But then again, what do I know...

Snarf · Feb 6, 2006

Qwert said:
The best results for any drug is an even dose being administered regularly.

For most drugs, yes. For all drugs, no. hGH is an example of a drug that clearly shows better results when dosed intermitantly. There are a variety of other drugs where this is the case as well.

I also agree that 2IU may not do a whole lot for a young male BB, but for someone over 35, it could provide a lot of benefit. I also have no idea what the pros take, so I am not recommending 2IU or any other dose for that matter.

TooPowerful4u · Feb 6, 2006

Qwert said:
You nailed it!!!! You have to take all the info you hear on the BB msg boards with a grain of salt. No one will tell you the truth for free.

I dunno, sometimes i feel the people giving advice on here shouldnt be giving it, if it isnt the HONEST truth. I know of at least 6 WELL respected people on here (one in particular that everyone hangs on his every word) that have posted certain things and info and how they feel on things, then told people i know on this board different things in private (PMs, etc..)

New_Mass · Feb 6, 2006

PHIL HERNON said:
I would do 2 iu EOD.

Phil we all would like for you to expound on why you have come to this conclusion. you are well respected on this board and hold alot of ppls attention due to your years of study,trial and error in the BB game therefore explain in detail why you think or know that 2ius eod generates the best effect

cryptasm · Feb 6, 2006

Phil, 2iu eod??? Why??? come on, no offense I know you know your shit and with the utmost repect for your accomplishments but...sometimes it seems like you just post shit to stir things up..this is not a flame nor meant with any disrespect... but to post that with no reason why or results verses other doses or shedules is just Bullshit..
everyone knows that 2iu a day is aminimum amount for results..also a maximux amount suggested to avoid side effects...Come on.. no one is asking for secrets that people pay you for but at least try to help..and if you feel that 2iu pd is best than why?? results?? maybe you don't use it just lik ethe rest of us don't cause that would be illegal..but I think you could be a little more helpfull...
again no disrespect cause i hate that bullshit with people fighting in a board but you could be alot more helpfull to us..but I can't really find any posts by you where you have passed on any genuinly helpfull knowledge..I understand you make $$ for that also , so you can't give everything away free..but atleast give us a hint at what we should look at....

Big A · Feb 6, 2006

The theory behind weekly dosages is that it mimics a baby's gh burst.

From my experience, 24IU once a week, gave great results.

New_Mass · Feb 6, 2006

Big A said:
From my experience, 24IU once a week, gave great results.

this is triple of what Phil suggest in a week, this is why we are trying to see what his take is on this based on his experience

Ashop · Feb 6, 2006

Big A said:
This is Phil's theory and it's been discussed here quite a lot over the years.
It's actually one shot every week.

When I tried it, I really liked it.

Will certainly try myself.

Jbomb · Feb 6, 2006

I had great results with 18iu/day for 12 weeks....but who wouldnt...lol

squatster · Feb 6, 2006

reading back on some of Paul Borresen's work- he suggests trying 8iu for 4 days and take 3 weeks off. He claimed the other guys that did it with him gained 2 to 4lbs and he gained 6lbs him self. Thay then took off the 3 weeks and kept all the weight gained and did the 4 days again and all gained a few pounds again.
Sounds nice only useing 32iu ever 3 weeks a 100iu kit would last 90 days
cheep-nice
He also said that he though no anything less then 6iu per day was next to useless