Quality of machines

[Ruhlfreak55]

Im no expert on the various brands, I know what machines feel good and hit the muscle and which don't. The gym with mostly hoist is adequate, always empty, dumbbells, cables, benches always available. The other gym has better equipment that appears much older but it's of no use to me if it's always packed and can't get in it. The dumbbell area is overcrowded and a complete mess benches never open. If we had a gym close by that had good equipment that wasn't packed I'd be more than happy to pay the $$. Only reason I know the hoist by brand name is because it's so shitty. That's my question, how are companies that put out shitty equipment so popular and why don't their engineers recognize how shitty the product is and improve it like the good brands?

because the corporate gyms keep them in business.

 

[alfresco]

You mean this?

Not plate loading hence diff strength curve (the lever arm) unless AJ changed the cam.

A good machine but nothing like the original. I have never tried it but the plate loaded is legendary perhaps for that reason.

Pullover machines through the years . . .

Gary Jones on a proto, Arnold on a proto on FL and on one in Golds (I have seen him use it) and Casey and Mike on another version. I have a video somewhere of Arthur using it . . . the only footage I have ever seen of him exercising . . . wish I could find it

 

[Yousef12O2]

I never understood the hype about this machine but people who used it always happen to praise it, so maybe it's that good, I just wish they haven't discontinued it. I tried the pullover machine where your feet don't touch the ground and didn't like it.

 

[CorgisOnTren]

I never understood the hype about this machine but people who used it always happen to praise it, so maybe it's that good, I just wish they haven't discontinued it. I tried the pullover machine where your feet don't touch the ground and didn't like it.

I can’t feel it even close to the way I feel a cable pullover tried several brands too

 

[comedycentral]

I never understood the hype about this machine but people who used it always happen to praise it, so maybe it's that good, I just wish they haven't discontinued it. I tried the pullover machine where your feet don't touch the ground and didn't like it.

Sometimes there is this mystic romance with some of these things. I have a pullover machine in my home gym and it’s decent but I only bought it because it was cheap. Can be hard on the shoulder if you let it go to far back. It can also be hit and miss if I feel it in my lats. Sometimes my triceps burn more.