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First I apologize for the length of this post, but I feel I need to thoroughly explain my situation in order to get the most appropriate response. I would greatly appreciate those knowledgeable enough to advise me on what to do, to take the time to read and respond.
So the cycle I had originally planned to run was:
1-12 750mg/wk Test E
1-4 50mg/ED Tbol
9-12 50mg/ED Winny
1-12 .25/EoD Arimidex
4-12 500iu/E5D HCG
15-17 Standard dose Clomid & Nolvadex
Well first, my entire problem was caused by me being overly anxious to get back on cycle after a long break and making the incredibly stupid mistake of starting my cycle with the test, tbol and arimidex that I already had on hand before my order of winny, HCG, clomid, and nolvadex had arrived. I had placed the order almost two weeks prior and expected it to arrive any day now. I began to get worried around my 3rd week (It had been over a month since my order). I would have just placed another order or got it domestically, but about a week and a half into my cycle there was an incident that caused me to temporarily become extremely low on funds to the point where I could barely pay my bills, and I just simply couldn't afford to reorder. By the 4th week I came to the conclusion that my order must have been seized (I should have realized before then, but I've had orders in the past take up to 6 weeks). I continued my cycle thinking my financial problem would be resolved quickly and I could then reorder the seized items and just move the start date of the HCG back a few weeks. My financial problems were taking much longer to resolve then expected and by this point I was nearing my 12th week. On hand I had about 6ml of Test more then my cycle required, so I decided to add 4 weeks to my cycle running 500mg 13-14 and 250mg 15-16 in hopes of my financial issue getting resolved shortly, enabling me to order and receive my PCT in time. Because of these issues my cycle ended up looking like this:
1-14 Test E 750mg/wk
15-16 Test E 500mg/wk
1-4 Tbol 50mg/ed
1-16 Arimidex .25mg/EoD
By week 16 my issues were still not resolved, but I had no choice but to end my cycle, increase my calories, and hope for the best. I continued running the Arimidex at a very light dose for another 3 weeks figuring it might help combat the spike in estrogen I was about to get. When I started my cycle I was 172lb. Now I know to most people this would seem too small for such a strong cycle, but I was previously required to stay around 170lb to make weight for my sport. At 170lb I was approx. 6-7% BF and able to bench 225 for 15, so I was a fairly big 170lber. At the end of my cycle I was up to 196lb with only about a 2% increase in BF. After about two weeks I had only dropped down to 192, but after the 2 week mark when the test was nearly gone from my system I began to rapidly lose weight. Currently, it's been almost 6 weeks since I ended my cycle and I have dropped all the way down to 168lb; now even lighter than I was originally. I also lost nearly all of my strength gains. For example, since getting off I've gone from chest pressing 125's for 10 all the way down to 110's for 8. My libido is also moderately lower then I can ever remember (Though not completely gone), and I'm breaking out far worse than I usually do after getting off cycle. I guess I should have expected both of these side effects since I've had no PCT to stabilize my hormone levels. The only bit of good news is that I'm back to around 7% BF and can see no signs of gyno.
I've just finally been informed that my financial problem will be resolved within a week and I will finally have the funds to repair my screwed up hormones. My problem now is, at this point I'm really not sure what would be required for PCT (If you can still call it that) after having been shut down so hard and for so long.
What I came up with myself was:
1-10 HCG 500iu/ed (Or 1-20 HCG 500iu/eod)
1-30 Clomid 100mg/ed
Possibly some Tribulus
And if it wouldn't be counterproductive, I'd also really like to run a low dose of Anavar to try and get back at least 5-10lb just to look a little less unhealthy. Just about everyone I know has taken notice and commented on how much smaller/frailer/unhealthy I'm beginning to look. I can't tell them the truth, so they probably assume either serious medical problems or heavy drug use.
So is the PCT I've come up with adequate to raise my natty test levels back to normal? If not, what should I change? Would the anavar be alright, or would it do more harm then good?
If you've taken the time to read this post, thank you. I would very much appreciate any insight/recommendations/suggestions that you might have to offer. I can say that I've definitely learned my lesson (The hard way) and will never again even consider starting a cycle until I have everything required on hand. Thanks again.
So the cycle I had originally planned to run was:
1-12 750mg/wk Test E
1-4 50mg/ED Tbol
9-12 50mg/ED Winny
1-12 .25/EoD Arimidex
4-12 500iu/E5D HCG
15-17 Standard dose Clomid & Nolvadex
Well first, my entire problem was caused by me being overly anxious to get back on cycle after a long break and making the incredibly stupid mistake of starting my cycle with the test, tbol and arimidex that I already had on hand before my order of winny, HCG, clomid, and nolvadex had arrived. I had placed the order almost two weeks prior and expected it to arrive any day now. I began to get worried around my 3rd week (It had been over a month since my order). I would have just placed another order or got it domestically, but about a week and a half into my cycle there was an incident that caused me to temporarily become extremely low on funds to the point where I could barely pay my bills, and I just simply couldn't afford to reorder. By the 4th week I came to the conclusion that my order must have been seized (I should have realized before then, but I've had orders in the past take up to 6 weeks). I continued my cycle thinking my financial problem would be resolved quickly and I could then reorder the seized items and just move the start date of the HCG back a few weeks. My financial problems were taking much longer to resolve then expected and by this point I was nearing my 12th week. On hand I had about 6ml of Test more then my cycle required, so I decided to add 4 weeks to my cycle running 500mg 13-14 and 250mg 15-16 in hopes of my financial issue getting resolved shortly, enabling me to order and receive my PCT in time. Because of these issues my cycle ended up looking like this:
1-14 Test E 750mg/wk
15-16 Test E 500mg/wk
1-4 Tbol 50mg/ed
1-16 Arimidex .25mg/EoD
By week 16 my issues were still not resolved, but I had no choice but to end my cycle, increase my calories, and hope for the best. I continued running the Arimidex at a very light dose for another 3 weeks figuring it might help combat the spike in estrogen I was about to get. When I started my cycle I was 172lb. Now I know to most people this would seem too small for such a strong cycle, but I was previously required to stay around 170lb to make weight for my sport. At 170lb I was approx. 6-7% BF and able to bench 225 for 15, so I was a fairly big 170lber. At the end of my cycle I was up to 196lb with only about a 2% increase in BF. After about two weeks I had only dropped down to 192, but after the 2 week mark when the test was nearly gone from my system I began to rapidly lose weight. Currently, it's been almost 6 weeks since I ended my cycle and I have dropped all the way down to 168lb; now even lighter than I was originally. I also lost nearly all of my strength gains. For example, since getting off I've gone from chest pressing 125's for 10 all the way down to 110's for 8. My libido is also moderately lower then I can ever remember (Though not completely gone), and I'm breaking out far worse than I usually do after getting off cycle. I guess I should have expected both of these side effects since I've had no PCT to stabilize my hormone levels. The only bit of good news is that I'm back to around 7% BF and can see no signs of gyno.
I've just finally been informed that my financial problem will be resolved within a week and I will finally have the funds to repair my screwed up hormones. My problem now is, at this point I'm really not sure what would be required for PCT (If you can still call it that) after having been shut down so hard and for so long.
What I came up with myself was:
1-10 HCG 500iu/ed (Or 1-20 HCG 500iu/eod)
1-30 Clomid 100mg/ed
Possibly some Tribulus
And if it wouldn't be counterproductive, I'd also really like to run a low dose of Anavar to try and get back at least 5-10lb just to look a little less unhealthy. Just about everyone I know has taken notice and commented on how much smaller/frailer/unhealthy I'm beginning to look. I can't tell them the truth, so they probably assume either serious medical problems or heavy drug use.
So is the PCT I've come up with adequate to raise my natty test levels back to normal? If not, what should I change? Would the anavar be alright, or would it do more harm then good?
If you've taken the time to read this post, thank you. I would very much appreciate any insight/recommendations/suggestions that you might have to offer. I can say that I've definitely learned my lesson (The hard way) and will never again even consider starting a cycle until I have everything required on hand. Thanks again.
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