Research Cycle Critique

[NeverQuit]

Below is the what i am planning for some research , but I have a few questions.

Test E: weeks 1-10 - 500mg per week
Deca: weeks 1-10 - 200mg per week
HCG: start one week after last shot, 500iu every 5 days until I start nolva(roughly 3-4 shots)
Nolva: start 3 weeks after last shot (dose per week) 40/20/20/20/10mg

Notes: I am interested in adding Proviron, but do not with to go online for it

Qustions:
1) would formestane work for on cycle estrogen sides?
2) Should the Test E be split up in 2 shots of 250 mg during the week, or is once per week good.
3) Can the Deca and Test E be mixed in the same shot?
4) Can the thigh be used for all of these, or would some be better off in the glute? Never done thigh, but it seems like much easier access.

If any of the more experienced guys have any suggestions on necessary additions or deletions, please feel free to comment.

 

[IM MACHO]

stats?? ..from everything I have researched and seen experienced guys on here post.. every 3.5 days for the test e injections to keep blood levels stable!! if you can handle all shots in same area go for it.. but if sore and tender mix it up.. glutes.. rear delts.. legs.. its your call there.. and for the deca I believe most guys are gonna tell you to up the dose.. but wait till a couple other bros on here chime in...

 

[NeverQuit]

stats?? ..from everything I have researched and seen experienced guys on here post.. every 3.5 days for the test e injections to keep blood levels stable!! if you can handle all shots in same area go for it.. but if sore and tender mix it up.. glutes.. rear delts.. legs.. its your call there.. and for the deca I believe most guys are gonna tell you to up the dose.. but wait till a couple other bros on here chime in...

6'1", 270-275, BF? visiable abs but in no way defined. Compete is strength sports.

The test and deca dosages are moderate because it will be my first injectable cycle. I have only used OTC pro hormones before, so I didnt want to run a high dose first cycle with these particular compounds and find out I am sensitive to then and end up with bad sides..

 

[oldfella]

stats?? ..from everything I have researched and seen experienced guys on here post.. every 3.5 days for the test e injections to keep blood levels stable!! if you can handle all shots in same area go for it.. but if sore and tender mix it up.. glutes.. rear delts.. legs.. its your call there.. and for the deca I believe most guys are gonna tell you to up the dose.. but wait till a couple other bros on here chime in...

Test E can be run e 5-7 days. No need for such frequency as mentioned. It has a long half life as does cypionate. Your levels will remain quite stable at 5-7 day intervals. Deca could be upped but for now leave it at 200. it is your first run. See how you react to this first.

 

[tkav1980]

6'1", 270-275, BF? visiable abs but in no way defined. Compete is strength sports.

The test and deca dosages are moderate because it will be my first injectable cycle. I have only used OTC pro hormones before, so I didnt want to run a high dose first cycle with these particular compounds and find out I am sensitive to then and end up with bad sides..

wow your a big boy! the deca an test can be loaded into one pin, and hit in the thigh, that will give you a 2cc shot once a week, and a one cc shot once a week.

 

[Steve123]

Below is the what i am planning for some research , but I have a few questions.

Test E: weeks 1-10 - 500mg per week
Deca: weeks 1-10 - 200mg per week
HCG: start one week after last shot, 500iu every 5 days until I start nolva(roughly 3-4 shots)
Nolva: start 3 weeks after last shot (dose per week) 40/20/20/20/10mg

Notes: I am interested in adding Proviron, but do not with to go online for it

Qustions:
1) would formestane work for on cycle estrogen sides?
2) Should the Test E be split up in 2 shots of 250 mg during the week, or is once per week good.
3) Can the Deca and Test E be mixed in the same shot?
4) Can the thigh be used for all of these, or would some be better off in the glute? Never done thigh, but it seems like much easier access.

If any of the more experienced guys have any suggestions on necessary additions or deletions, please feel free to comment.

I would do a little more research around the HCG. I'm no vet by any means but I understand that HCG can cause it's own problems if overdone. Some say 500mg per week is about it and that it should be run during your cycle.

 

[NeverQuit]

I would do a little more research around the HCG. I'm no vet by any means but I understand that HCG can cause it's own problems if overdone. Some say 500mg per week is about it and that it should be run during your cycle.

Ya, Im planning to do some more research on the HCG. That is the part of the cycle I am least familiar with. The research I have done all says a deca/test cycle for 10 weeks or more can cause quite a bit of shut down and HCG was recommended to get things going. Problem is every place I read has different recommendations on how much and when to use it.

 

[gordo14]

Hcg

There are many different opinions on how to run HCG. From my research, and having discussed other research most guys run250-500iu's(not cc's) twice a week. In my experiment the rodent was administered 500 iu's every 3.5 days for the last eight weeks of the ten week experiment. It kept his nuts from becoming atrophed(shrinking), and i beleive allowed for a quicker recovery at the end of said experiment. This however was just a pointless experiment that may not interest you at all.

 

[NeverQuit]

Nothing to do with the cycle itself, but anyone heard of Gynetix Pharmaceuticals?

 

[NeverQuit]

If this cycle is leading up to a strength contest, and planned to end the cylce just before then. I was going to do 1 shot of Deca a week, and 2 shots of Enanthate a week, using Sunday and Wednesday as injection days. If the contest is on a Saturday, I was thinking of doing the last shot of Enanthate on Wed, the sunday before that do Enathate and Deca.

Does that sound right or would I be better off doing the Deca and Test together on the last wed?

 

[oldfella]

If this cycle is leading up to a strength contest, and planned to end the cylce just before then. I was going to do 1 shot of Deca a week, and 2 shots of Enanthate a week, using Sunday and Wednesday as injection days. If the contest is on a Saturday, I was thinking of doing the last shot of Enanthate on Wed, the sunday before that do Enathate and Deca.

Does that sound right or would I be better off doing the Deca and Test together on the last wed?

Mainly out of curiosity But I want to ask why you are thinking this way about the timing of two long estered aas compounds? this stuff is not like suspension which will get in and work in a matter of hours. Test e and deca will remain in your system for a long time after the last shot. Deca in itself is a drug that has a more cumlative effect for strength (if I can put it that way) than a have a shot on weds and it is working on friday or saturday. The strength gains from deca usually hang around for a while after the last shot also. If you are worried about being tested either way you are screwed if they test you. Deca is detectable for up to 18 months in your system (in some cases) Like I said just curious!

 

[NeverQuit]

Basically I was thinking it was allow for maximum cumulative strength of the chemicals in the body. I do understand that they several days/weeks before leaving the body, but I was not sure when the drug would be at peak strength. This is why I was asking the question. If the best time to take the last deca shot is 2 weeks before the contest that is fine, I just wanted to make sure its at peak strength during the contest.

 

[oldfella]

Basically I was thinking it was allow for maximum cumulative strength of the chemicals in the body. I do understand that they several days/weeks before leaving the body, but I was not sure when the drug would be at peak strength. This is why I was asking the question. If the best time to take the last deca shot is 2 weeks before the contest that is fine, I just wanted to make sure its at peak strength during the contest.

OK I gotcha! Well deca about 1 week out from the event would probably put you pretty close. Test e, well the half life is aprox 10 days so perhaps on or around the five to six day mark.

 

[alecaf]

I would take HCG during cycle. Start week 5 or so, then keep running it till the end. 500iu 2x week.

 

[notsobig32]

Below is the what i am planning for some research , but I have a few questions.

Test E: weeks 1-10 - 500mg per week
Deca: weeks 1-10 - 200mg per week
HCG: start one week after last shot, 500iu every 5 days until I start nolva(roughly 3-4 shots)
Nolva: start 3 weeks after last shot (dose per week) 40/20/20/20/10mg

Notes: I am interested in adding Proviron, but do not with to go online for it

Qustions:
1) would formestane work for on cycle estrogen sides?
2) Should the Test E be split up in 2 shots of 250 mg during the week, or is once per week good.
3) Can the Deca and Test E be mixed in the same shot?
4) Can the thigh be used for all of these, or would some be better off in the glute? Never done thigh, but it seems like much easier access.

If any of the more experienced guys have any suggestions on necessary additions or deletions, please feel free to comment.

I gotta say that is a very reasonable looking cycle and you seem to have thought it out and done all the research. Good luck and let us know how it turns out!