shoulder width?

[bulk]

was wonderiong what the average olympian's shoulder width is across from side to side not around? cant find much on it on the net?

 

[thebaron1]

24 inches across??? that sounds waaaay too small...

 

[mikeyt869]

i dont think 24" across is that small, because 24" across the front 24" across the back and about 6" thick would be 60" around the shoulders. im not saying 24 is pro size but i bet some guys on the olympia stage arent much bigger, others are!

 

[thebaron1]

well considering arnolds chest was about 57 INCHES and he is by no means as large as most olympia competitors.....and shoulder measurements are always more than chest.....id say that is on the small side

 

[cb11mass]

I believe the chest size was measured around. He is asking for a width measurment not the circumference

 

[bulk]

appriciate the feed back yall , i was thinking it was around 25 inches

 

[aussiebulldog]

well considering arnolds chest was about 57 INCHES and he is by no means as large as most olympia competitors.....and shoulder measurements are always more than chest.....id say that is on the small side

Arnold measurements in any case were exaggerated a lot of the time.
what was his reported arm size?

 

[thebaron1]

his actual arm size was 21 inches......and circumference for the chest is still a relevant comparison......like the guy said...if theyre 24 across and 6 inches wide...that is 60 inches.....in circumference.....arnold had a 57 inch chest.....and since CHEST measurements are always much smaller than shoulder measurements......it wouldnt make much sense that these guys only have a 60 inch shoulder circumference.....meaning theyre MUCH WIDER than 24 inches

im 6' 2" and 230 pounds at 14 % and i just measured my shoulders WIDTH and theyre 22 inches....i seriously doubt top level bodybuilders arent much wider than me...

 

[AN3M4L]

I thought Arnolds arms where 22".

 

[Quad-smack]

With anthropometric measurements, we measure from left Clavicular-Acromio process to the right. This would measure skeletal frame size, not circumference. Much would also depend on bodyfat percentage.

 

[thebaron1]

why would you measure the distance of the bone structure......wasnt he asking about width of muscle?

 

[mikeyt869]

not to hi jack but u think the whole arnold's measuremnts thing is made up bs.They were made larger by joe weider acording to many people that have stood next to him hes not even 6'2" like the claims hes more like 5'11". I think his arm size was told by sergio who trained with him.
here it is:
Interview with Sergio Olivia


BDJ: I believe you may be the only person to officially develop a muscular arm with a height (from the top of the biceps to the bottom of the triceps) greater than the height of one's head. Did this phenomenon occur while training with Jones?

SO: This occurred with Jones, around the time of the 1972 Mr. Olympia in Essen, Germany. You see, Jones tricked everybody. He would invite them down and pay for the trip to test his machines. Everyone went down... Columbu, Arnold, Zane... everybody. And as soon as you arrived he would start measuring your arms cold, then he would tell you how much you can increase in a couple of days, and nobody would believe it. All those Weider magazines claiming 21-22" arms would have everyone coming down to 18-19"... and the only 20.5" cold was my arm. After going through his workouts, my arm was almost an inch bigger, and that happened for everybody. Arnold's arm was 19.75", and Weider had him in the magazines with 22.5". It was ridiculous -- all their measurements came down when Jones measured them. It was during that time that Jones measured my arms and my head, and I couldn't believe that my arms were bigger than my head... I didn't pay attention up to that point.



also from that Sergio interview



BDJ: Judging from past photos, I believe you were your biggest while training with Jones.

SO: No question about it. And it's too bad... I should have sta with him. When I went to London in 1970 for the Mr. Universe, everyone knew I beat those guys, including Bill Pearl... I was given second place. From there I was to go to the 1971 Mr. Olympia, in Paris. I spoke to Serge Nubret who asked that I go to the Mr. Olympia since Joe Weider wouldn't be there to fix the contest. I then flew to Paris, and while there Joe found out I was going to compete. And he refused... he would not let me compete. He said I was suspended for a year because I competed in the non-IFBB sanctioned Mr. Universe in London the year before. He used any kind of trick. He allowed me to do a posing exhibition, but not compete. In 1972, the Mr. Olympia promoter called everyone to go, and everyone did. But Joe didn't want Arnold to go, but Arnold wanted to compete. (I have nothing against Arnold, he has done very well; many people used him in the beginning, then he used them.) Arnold competed in Essen. By that time, the training I had with Jones allowed me to win the contest by miles. People are still talking about Essen '72. Even Arnold himself said that he didn't win, that it was nothing but politics... it was nothing but politics, but they gave it to him. After that contest Weider put the promoter out of the promotion business. Serge Nubret used to be the big man when it came to running contests. Weider also put him out of the business because Serge did not want to run the contests the way Weider wanted to run them _ his way with the placings predetermined

BDJ: After you left Jones's instruction and went your own way, did you continue training with a HIT approach, or did you return to volume training?

SO: Well, I went back to free weights because I did not have access to his machines. I was definitely more powerful after the experience and was lifting more on the free weights than ever before. I did maintained the same intensity afterward, however.

BDJ: The reason I brought that up is that previous issues of muscle magazines, and throughout various Weider encyclopedias and books, it suggested that you performed a much higher volume of training, up to 15-20 sets per muscle group.

SO: I definitely did not do that many sets, but don't forget I didn't have the machines, which were much more intense -- requiring less volume in comparison to free weights. So I had to make up for the reduction in quality. It's politics, the Weider bull magazines. But they control everything. If you try and fight it they will do everything to get you out of the way. They control all the contests, equipment and bodybuilders. And bodybuilders have to go with Weider because where else are they going to compete? They have to bend and go with them. But me, I did not care. When I went to Weider I was already Sergio Oliva, so he could not say that he 'made' me. People already knew me from before and that I was with the AAU before going for the IFBB. He could not use me, perhaps to the point where he could claim that he took me out of my mamma's belly.



so the stuff I read about Sergio saying he shrunk under Arthur Jones is false...



BDJ: Could you relay your own experience with drug use?

SO: This is an area of great interest for people. I don't care who wants to take steroids, because that's a personal choice... that's his life. Now, today, everybody has access to them. I even saw in one of the big magazines that Arnold denies having used them, but Arnold was one of the first to bring steroids over to America. And everybody in the old days used them: Zane, Columbu, myself, Arnold, Larry Scott, Harold Poole, Dave Draper, and even Steve Reeves. There's no way to deny it. It wasn't much, nothing like today. But the development of drugs is much different. I used decca and dianabol, and that was something really big at the time; and decca was not considered that bad. It was even prescribed by doctors to help make your bones strong. Today you have guys weighing 200 pounds, and six months later they weigh 250-300 pounds! So you know these guys are taking something unbelievable. When they say they haven't taken any thing, you know that it's phony.

 

[thebaron1]

so because sergio says arnolds arms arent as big as they say they were that makes it true? considering he and arnold hated each other i doubt that is accurate...more like trash talking.

 

[Big_Truck]

NFL exaggerates stats
Pro Wrestling Exaggerates stats
BodyBuilding Exaggerates stats

They all do to make them seem more Godlike or unachievable to the common pee-on.

Nowadays , I hear commentators mentioning how these tall skinny college & pro basketball players are putting up high 4oo's in the bench.

Also, recently watching an NFL game they said a player ran a 10.07 second 100 mtr dash in high school..... He could have won the NCAA's in high school along with most likely the high school national record. Yet I think Walter Dix has that instead of him...Hmmmm that's odd.

Even on that bigger faster stronger movie, Doesn't Will Harris answer when asked "how big are your arms?" he then replies, "25 inches"?

I just ignore it , while others believe this nonsense.

 

[Quad-smack]

was wonderiong what the average olympian's shoulder width is across from side to side not around? cant find much on it on the net?

why would you measure the distance of the bone structure......wasnt he asking about width of muscle?

? - average olympian what? Discus, shot-put, marathoner, table-tennis, Oly lifter?

 

[thebaron1]

try olympian.....as in bodybuilding...like the olypmpia....otherwise his question has no relevance.

 

[thebaron1]

NFL exaggerates stats
Pro Wrestling Exaggerates stats
BodyBuilding Exaggerates stats

They all do to make them seem more Godlike or unachievable to the common pee-on.

Nowadays , I hear commentators mentioning how these tall skinny college & pro basketball players are putting up high 4oo's in the bench.

Also, recently watching an NFL game they said a player ran a 10.07 second 100 mtr dash in high school..... He could have won the NCAA's in high school along with most likely the high school national record. Yet I think Walter Dix has that instead of him...Hmmmm that's odd.

Even on that bigger faster stronger movie, Doesn't Will Harris answer when asked "how big are your arms?" he then replies, "25 inches"?

I just ignore it , while others believe this nonsense.

can you prove what youre suggesting...?

 

[confuzed_guy2000]

can you prove what youre suggesting...?

Prove that he is skeptical?

 

[Dubs]

NFL exaggerates stats
Pro Wrestling Exaggerates stats
BodyBuilding Exaggerates stats

They all do to make them seem more Godlike or unachievable to the common pee-on.

Nowadays , I hear commentators mentioning how these tall skinny college & pro basketball players are putting up high 4oo's in the bench.

Also, recently watching an NFL game they said a player ran a 10.07 second 100 mtr dash in high school..... He could have won the NCAA's in high school along with most likely the high school national record. Yet I think Walter Dix has that instead of him...Hmmmm that's odd.

Even on that bigger faster stronger movie, Doesn't Will Harris answer when asked "how big are your arms?" he then replies, "25 inches"?

I just ignore it , while others believe this nonsense.

I thought it was tony freeman that said that? huh, i guess i need to watch the movie again LOL

But today, everything is over exaggerated. From lifting stats and measurements to the dosages of drugs that pros "dont" use.

You just have to believe what you want to believe. Ignore whats obviously not true, like Big Truck said.

 

[thebaron1]

so is johnny jackson exagerating his lifts? boy that would be a sad day.