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Trazadone made me feel like a zombie the next day
I was looking into this last week and came across these four which aren't too difficult to obtain:
Trazodone (50mg)
Hydroxyzine (Vistaril, 25mg)
Eszopiclone (Lunesta, 3mg)
Quetiapine (Seroquel, 12.5mg)
Only have experience with the first two and like trazodone more. Hydroxyzine I tried recently and stacked with Benadryl (normally take 75-100 mg every night) but lowered the Benadryl to 25 mg. Had about 6 nightmares in the span of an hour and woke up to take more Benadryl. Thought for sure I'd end up in the loony bin if I had to endure another 8 hours of those nightmares.
Lunesta works well at first. It's physically addictive, though. I went through a phase where I was taking it every night. I got to the point where I was starting to feel like shit every afternoon. I'd feel worse and worse through the evening, then I'd take the pill at bedtime and feel better. It took me a while to realize that I was going through withdrawal on a daily basis.
I don't get that effect now, since I take it once a month at most. It works well as long as I don't make it a regular thing.
Getting intensive sleep is crucial to health and growth.
Never been a fan of sleeping aids, I think they will cause some sort of issue eventually, mostly addiction.
Try to address why the issue has arisen to start with.
Reminds me of Arnold's philosophy of training yourself to not needing as much sleep as a regular person. Because you can sleep when you're dead and can get a lot more done, and experience more things if you don't sleep. But I've seen data where even one hour less than the optimal starts having a multitude of negative effects on health and performance. I see sleep as quality time
I have tried seroquel at very light doses....say 25mg...and it too knows me the f!ck out but again it can be habit forming and when you want to try an ween off it can be very difficult and sides withdraw symptoms are crazy.Does seroquel give you any sides? How many hours of sleep do you get on it? You feel refreshed in the morning?
With the exception of traz the others can be habit forming.I was looking into this last week and came across these four which aren't too difficult to obtain:
Trazodone (50mg)
Hydroxyzine (Vistaril, 25mg)
Eszopiclone (Lunesta, 3mg)
Quetiapine (Seroquel, 12.5mg)
Only have experience with the first two and like trazodone more. Hydroxyzine I tried recently and stacked with Benadryl (normally take 75-100 mg every night) but lowered the Benadryl to 25 mg. Had about 6 nightmares in the span of an hour and woke up to take more Benadryl. Thought for sure I'd end up in the loony bin if I had to endure another 8 hours of those nightmares.
With the exception of traz the others can be habit forming.
Are you sure about hydroxyzine? The doc actually Rx'd it to me when I was under a ton of stress and wanted something that worked quickly but wasn't addictive (was going to be Ativan). Didn't know it was for sleep until I started searching threads here but it seems like shit compared to Benadryl.
Any OTC shit doesn’t do anything for me.
So it’s either sleep like shit or take drugs that have crazy addictive properties and side effects. Thus far I’ve chosen sleeping like shit....kinda sucks but the alternative I believe is worse.
You may be right. I've had insomnia all my life, used the GABA and melatonin and tryptophan as long as they would work for me.
But then during a bad time in my life (taking care of my elderly mother when she was passing away from ALS) I couldn't sleep at all, and I started taking Valium to get to sleep at night. I was caught between a rock and a hard place; I needed sleep to be able to take care of my mother, and was completely stressed out and unable to sleep, so I did what I had to do. But I should have stopped the Valium as soon as possible after she died...but then there was stress from handling her estate, dealing with my family and other issues...always one reason or another to keep taking it.
That was four years ago. I'm still taking 10mg Valium to get to sleep at night, and I can't get to sleep without it. It's worked for me so far...but has it? I have anxiety and OCD problems and other issues. Can I get to sleep without the Valium? No. Can I manage to taper off it successfully...that remains to be seen.
I wish I never got started with the Valium in the first place. If I could do it all over again, I would make sure I exhausted every other option first. Because being an addict (to anything) is a dumb and dangerous way to go through life, and I am kicking myself for putting myself in this position.