So today i was banned from...

[lucian]

SIOUXCOUNTRY !! lol

why....i let loose a lil too much. let me explain. Kari was a member there. some guy named eric told about how he was prepping his girls on no cardio and eating cinnamon toats crunch. Kari said thats great but not everyone can do that. well he sot back at her and attacked. I joined at that point to explain he doesnt have the only way to get in shape there are many ways.

It led to a big fight, me being called names, himand his trainees freakin out and i said ok im leaving. Now, the owner asked me to stay and contribute because i had some good things to say.
I did, but every-time i posted i got attacked. i defended myself....like i would, and sometimes got a lil out of had when a mod told me to go fuck myself on there. WTF?

Now this time, Isaac Hines made a post about creeper photographers taking advantage of new women in the sport.And i chimed in and said to be careful and do not sign anything unless you read and understand it cuz there are a lot of shitty things that go on. alot of them are like fetish sites and youu wont even know you are on there till you GOOGLE yourself and then ist a shock.

Well the creepy photographers chimed in and attacked me. i fought back, and it got ugly. My origional posts didnt name any photographer, nor did it call anyone out nor was it rude in any way. until they came and started freaking out.


so i got nasty and got banned. HOWEVER....all these guys outed themselves by defending themselves.....but i never named anyone. but now the women know who they all are....they buried themselves. not one women chimed in on the whole thread till the mod that messed with me before and i got banned. But a lot of the women read it..MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. it prolly wasnt the best way yo go about it, but if only one girl can avoid being exploited from the post.....then the ban is not in vain. what do you guys think about the creepers who take pics and then put them on paysites like fetish and muscle worship things. the girls think they are gonna show them to flex, ironman, MD and the big mags....and they just put them up and make money.

Has anyone had this happen to them?

Opinions?

lucian

 

[tenny]

no, no such drama

well not since i was 13 or 14

 

[lucian]

thanks, Tenny ... but thats not what i meant. what I was asking was Has anybody ever been photographed and your pictures ended up on a porn/paysite, and you didn't know it at first? until you somehow found out or googled yourself?

 

[tenny]

thanks, Tenny ... but thats not what i meant. what I was asking was Has anybody ever been photographed and your pictures ended up on a porn/paysite, and you didn't know it at first? until you somehow found out or googled yourself?

lol....no, not that either

 

[Alex A]

Bodybuilding has Shmoes and Pros..

I choose to hang with the pros...

 

[Big Dave Smith]

What Alex A said.

Go to northamericanbodies.com. You'll see a bunch of teenagers. Why? These fucking schmoes go to Teen/Collegiate Nationals and offer these kids photo shoots.

I know a guy who's won his class there and he said within 5 minutes of the shoot, he walked out and called them faggots. They started to ask him to pull his posing trunks into his crack and pose weird.

They seem to get a lot of young guys and guys that just don't know any better who are just happy to get somebody willing to shoot them.

Hell, half the photographers look like guys you'd NEVER leave your child with.

 

[Alex A]

What Alex A said.

Go to northamericanbodies.com. You'll see a bunch of teenagers. Why? These fucking schmoes go to Teen/Collegiate Nationals and offer these kids photo shoots.

I know a guy who's won his class there and he said within 5 minutes of the shoot, he walked out and called them faggots. They started to ask him to pull his posing trunks into his crack and pose weird.

They seem to get a lot of young guys and guys that just don't know any better who are just happy to get somebody willing to shoot them.

Hell, half the photographers look like guys you'd NEVER leave your child with.

I feel bad for the teens because they are young and maybe not smart enough to know that shooting with a shmoe is going to have its backlash...

but the ladies out there should be a little more selective in who they shoot with

If some no name photographer wants to do a photoshoot with you, alone, then you have to think about what are his intentions?...

The bottom line is ... competitors need to take responsibility for thier actions and not be put into a position of exploitation... Stick to shooting with reputable photographers or get your pictures from the event photographers..

 

[lucian]

I feel bad for the teens because they are young and maybe not smart enough to know that shooting with a shmoe is going to have its backlash...

but the ladies out there should be a little more selective in who they shoot with

If some no name photographer wants to do a photoshoot with you, alone, then you have to think about what are his intentions?...

The bottom line is ... competitors need to take responsibility for thier actions and not be put into a position of exploitation... Stick to shooting with reputable photographers or get your pictures from the event photographers..

The thing is when someone is BRAND NEW to the industry, and the first time a photographer wants to take photos...they are really start stuck and happy someone wants to take the pics. the photographer then explains how you need a portfolio to get work and he will help you.

he says he will help shop the pics. These guys know who and who not to approach.

There is one guy who wont approach kari anymore because he knows she is gonna shoot him down like she always does and she isnt nieve to his rap.

Jobs google you now before you are hired. could you imagine them finding some porn/paysite you didnt know about with you on it? You woldnt get the job and not even know why.

After people are around a bit and make new friends in the industry they get to know who to trust and who is a creeper. We were just trying to help the new women on Siouxcountry.

lucian

 

[Johnny Smiles]

no such thing as bad press

-JS

 

[b dub b]

SIOUXCOUNTRY?? You dont need no stinkin' SIOUXCOUNTRY

 

[Massive G]

I generally stay out of female forums, especially a creep like siouxcountry and his schmoe haven.

Those places are loaded with schmoes, and yes they are just as creepy on the teen sites with young guys.

 

[thebrick]

Working in an industry that involves photographers, I can tell you that bodybuilders and fitness persons need to put their egos aside if someone volunteers to "help you out". That photographer is (a) either going to want money from you to do this or (b) is going to make money OFF you by selling these shots to other resources (I'll leave "resources" at that). These guys are not doing this because they are here to help you out of the goodness of their heart. They are doing it because they are going to get money out of these photos at YOUR expense.

 

[Phidias]

Lucian, bro, you should have made a post on PM well before being banned, so that your friends here could have joined SIOUXCOUNTRY and have your back... would have been a lot more fun...

In all seriousness, yeah you're right and that's sad... all sorts of creepy guys in the sport of BB... they're like gangrene... not only to girls, but to males also (gay porn)... to each his own and fine if you're ok with being featured on "exotic" lol websites, but most of the time it's at the expense of young and naive athletes.

 

[Tyrone]

Who the hell fucks with lucian?!?!

Screw em man

 

[lucian]

thanks guys., woulda been so cool if we all got banned together!!! lol

 

[Huge_C2]

Lucian, bro, you should have made a post on PM well before being banned, so that your friends here could have joined SIOUXCOUNTRY and have your back... would have been a lot more fun...

SERIOUSLY!!! I'm on there.. Rarely post but wow.. I have read what some of the other guys post on there and i have yet to see them get banned.. Talk about handing out some REALLY bad advice to the ladies...

 

[lucian]

SERIOUSLY!!! I'm on there.. Rarely post but wow.. I have read what some of the other guys post on there and i have yet to see them get banned.. Talk about handing out some REALLY bad advice to the ladies...

To be fair...as soon as i was attacked i really went after these creeepers. and the more i did, the more of them came out of the woodwork and started posting. one after another. the owner...from what i hear himself is a bit of a creeper. He said "This is a womens board. Men are guests here." HUh?Men are guests? That means even if we have good info if a woman disagrees with us....we should shut up?doesnt make sense.
Actually he lets certain MEN say and do whatever they want. the REST are guests.

I only post on there wheni see some false info, or someone being attacked. Some of the women sent me PM a few times and said the agree with me, but are scared to post. Nice....your members are scared to post. Why?

Anyway, Nickyfregs warned me, he said "Dude you gotta stop posting there. Your gonna have a heart attack!" lol

Luycian

 

[Huge_C2]

Thats such crap.. Some of the so called "gurus" on there hand out some AWFUL info.. Ill be the first to admit that i know very little about the sport but some of what they say is just ludacris... Im proud of you for standing up to them.. Its strange how when a person of good character stands up ALL the people of sub par character have to come out... But anyways you cant save everyone..

 

[mo chuisle]

Lucian, bro, you should have made a post on PM well before being banned, so that your friends here could have joined SIOUXCOUNTRY and have your back... would have been a lot more fun...

In all seriousness, yeah you're right and that's sad... all sorts of creepy guys in the sport of BB... they're like gangrene... not only to girls, but to males also (gay porn)... to each his own and fine if you're ok with being featured on "exotic" lol websites, but most of the time it's at the expense of young and naive athletes.

Great idea, Phidias! I would've loved reading all the PM boys' "contributions" to that thread!

I think the point of the thread was a good intention. I sure wish someone would've posted a warning about "creepers" when I first started competing. Now I'm doomed to finding bad photos of myself (not inappropriate, just poorly composed) on questionable websites.

I'd post my viewpoint on the Siouxcountry thread, but I just can't bring myself to contribute to a board where the OWNER posts things like this: "I appreciate this excellent discussion everyone (minus Lucian)." WTF

Makes me appreciate PM even more!

 

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Sioux Country. lol

Must be a really big board.

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