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Nooooooo not at all bro, I have ran multi's and amino's together. And sometimes running them together adds up the pill count quickly. From what I have seen here with the product Humapro folks are consuming a large amount of pills to get what they need. Then you said you take the product you mentioned "over" Humapro. But when I looked it was still 12 pills at a time. I am not one for dumping large amount of pills down my throat. (to me it gets old quickly) I was hoping your product would be more concentrated I guess and thus woudnt have to take so many. That's all I was trying to get to and ask. I tried Animal pak before and two packs a day of pills almost had me throwing up.

(dont want to thread jack, but thanks for your input bro)

They are hydrolyzed down to 87% according to DiPasquale whereas the Humapro is free so technically Humapro is the more potent product. I suppose it depends on if you prefer free aminos or peptide bonded mixed with free.

Why 12 at a time? It's the effective dose for most bodybuilders up to 225 lbs. if I remember correctly. I think you add one tab for every 10 lbs. over 225.

You could always chew them if you don't like swallowing tabs. This would get old even quicker unless you enjoy extremely bitter food.

I know Humapro is effective I'm just partial to Amino.
 
As Humapro is essentially an EAA product the question i am most concernd with is - are EAAs alone more effective then Whey Protein?

I have found a study (on elderly people though) which states that whey protein is much more effective for anabolism then EAAs:


Whey protein and building muscle: the sum greater than the parts?
By Stephen Daniells, 29-Oct-2008

Related topics: Research, Proteins, peptides, amino acids

A supplement containing whey protein can boost the building of muscle in the elderly, with the effects beyond that of just the amino acid content, says a new study.
Fifteen elderly people took part in the trial, which found improvements in the levels of phenylalanine – a measure of muscle protein accumulation, according to findings published in the journal Nutrition Research.

“This finding may have practical implications for the formulation of nutritional supplements to enhance muscle anabolism in older individuals,” wrote lead author Christos Katsanos from Arizona State University.

The participants (average age 65.7) received a bolus containing whey protein (WY, 15 grams), the constituent essential amino acids (EAA, 6.72 grams), or the non-essential amino acids (NEAA, 7.57 grams). During the 3.5 hours that followed ingestion of the bolus, the researchers measured the phenylalanine balance in the subjects.

Katsanos and his co-workers report that only subjects in the whey group experienced improvements in the phenylalanine balance, from -216 to -105 nanomoles per minute per kilograms of lean leg mass. In the essential and non-essential amino acid groups, phenylalanine balance changed from −203 to −172, and from −203 to −204 nanomoles per minute per kilograms of lean leg mass, respectively.

“The most important finding of this study is that WY, at least in the amount ingested in this study, results in greater anabolic effect in elderly persons than its EAA,” wrote the researchers.

“Therefore, this suggests that WY ingestion improves muscle protein accretion in elderly persons through mechanisms that are beyond those associated with its EAA content.”

Source: Nutrition Research
October 2008, Volume 28, Issue 10, Pages 651-658
“Whey protein ingestion in elderly persons results in greater muscle protein accrual than ingestion of its constituent essential amino acid content”

Authors: C.S. Katsanos, D.L. Chinkes, D. Paddon-Jones, X.-j. Zhang, A. Aarsland, R.R. Wolfe


The remaining question would be.. is a combination of free from EAAs an NEAAs more effective promoting anabolisim then Whey...
 
knight, clear out your PM's.
 
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I can't say I'm convinced one way or the other about this stuff yet. Mostly good reviews from people and a lot of trusted names are giving it a good word. On the other hand it's hard to believe you'd be getting a good benefit from this stuff.

Haven't brought it into my store yet, might have to get a bottle from a distributor to test it out and see if I like it.. It'd be really convenient for a lot of guys that come in my store and I'm sure it'd be a big seller if it worked pretty well..

Guess we'll see.
 
I can't say I'm convinced one way or the other about this stuff yet. Mostly good reviews from people and a lot of trusted names are giving it a good word. On the other hand it's hard to believe you'd be getting a good benefit from this stuff.

Haven't brought it into my store yet, might have to get a bottle from a distributor to test it out and see if I like it.. It'd be really convenient for a lot of guys that come in my store and I'm sure it'd be a big seller if it worked pretty well..

Guess we'll see.

Where are you located and who do you go through as far as dist? Also, how can you say it's hard to believe you'd be getting good benefit from this stuff?
Have you read **broken link removed** ??
 
In the video Author mentions a liquid and powder version. Are they out already? Or do you know when are they due to come out with them?

Yes there was a limited release of the powder. It is available. It will be available A LOT more places soon.
 
Where are you located and who do you go through as far as dist? Also, how can you say it's hard to believe you'd be getting good benefit from this stuff?
Have you read **broken link removed** ??

Haven't read it. Basing it purely off of my own speculation. I am taking other people's opinions and reviews into consideration though. That would be why I am considering giving it a run and see if I like it.

I'm in KS and for Alri I believe I go through USA Sports.. Used to go through lonestar in the day. I know at one point we were considering going direct - back in the days when hyperdrive was cranking.
 
Im gonna give 20 a day a shot for a few months but im only going to subtract 20-30grams off my daily total protein intake. Im not %100 convinced that 1g of humapro equals 5grams of whey or other protein. It would scare me too much to drop 100g protein and only replace it with 20g ;)
 
I bought 3 bottles and I'm going to give it a run. I am one of those people that never felt that Whey protein ever did squat for me. Two days in, my entire body feels tighter. Waist, arms, pec/delt tie ins are showing better. I am also down 5 pounds in two days with really no change in diet. I will admit that I am eating slightly less food in trying to not overlap different protein sources with the Humapro. When I get things scheduled properly, it will all work out.

The other wild card in this experiment is that I have been clean since the 2nd of August. This is after quite a good many years of cycles. I'm in my early 40's and have finally realized that it's not "all about" the gear. The point of all of this is to illustrate that what I say about the product is all the product, and not 2g of test, and 1g of Tren doing the talking.
 
I bought 3 bottles and I'm going to give it a run. I am one of those people that never felt that Whey protein ever did squat for me. Two days in, my entire body feels tighter. Waist, arms, pec/delt tie ins are showing better. I am also down 5 pounds in two days with really no change in diet. I will admit that I am eating slightly less food in trying to not overlap different protein sources with the Humapro. When I get things scheduled properly, it will all work out.

The other wild card in this experiment is that I have been clean since the 2nd of August. This is after quite a good many years of cycles. I'm in my early 40's and have finally realized that it's not "all about" the gear. The point of all of this is to illustrate that what I say about the product is all the product, and not 2g of test, and 1g of Tren doing the talking.

Sounds great brother! Keep us updated. Have you heard there is now a powder available in sour grape and apple cider?
 
Only thing that seems odd to me is the 1g to 5g comparison. If i eat 400g protien daily and replace that all with 80 humapro caps. thats going from 1600cals to 320cals. Seems kinda scary.
 
You replace cals with clean carbs and efa's.

Also, just cuz you CAN replace ALL your protein, thats impractical for us bodybuilders. You definitely can cut down on it though.
 
I still think this stuff makes sense in the Warrior Diet. If you are only taking in a few grams of protein it should not ruin the insulin sensitivity and other benefits of that diet.

I have never done that diet but am interested in the theory. If this product could be used as a quality and low calories protein replacement then it might give you the best of both worlds ie stream of quality nutrients but dense enough to not ruin the fasting response
 
So what is the illegal ingredient in this product??? I can almost guarantee there is at least ONE. Was it not ALR that has had this problem in the past, of putting illegal substances into their products?
 

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