seriously tho..
how many of those guys:
-had untreated sleep apnea
-did nothing about really high blood pressure
-abused pain killers
-abused orals (like Munzer, allegedly)
-abused rec drugs
-never dropped their doses during the off season
-abused fat burners like clen (Big Kiwi (RIP), said that he used at least 400mcg of clen/day for extended periods during gaining phases, and ate bags of candy on the regular)
-used diuretics regularly (competing multiple times a year. Dillet was so loaded he went full statue onstage)
-ate shit (Palumbo claimed to pound down McDonalds like no one's business)
-had genetic disorders (like Flex Wheeler and Arnold)
-ignored warnings (Art Atwood had a heart attack but kept competing IIRC)
-stayed big after stopping competing (Nasser remained quite larger after he retired IIRC)
-walked around at 250-300+ pounds for YEARS at a time? Trevor Smith and Greg Kovacs were 400lbs... fuck yeah you're going to die if you get that big
We know that bodybuilding is a very expensive sport at the highest levels.. how often do you think these guys got checkups? how many of them spent money on support supplements? Competitions back then didn't pay shit (they still don't). Many of them charged their fans for signatures on their posters lol. you think they would spare any drug/food money on health-related stuff? unlikely.
are bodybuilding drugs the problem? or is stupidity?
but I digress
Good health makes a lot of sense, but it doesn’t make a lot of dollars.
seriously tho..
how many of those guys:
-had untreated sleep apnea
-did nothing about really high blood pressure
-abused pain killers
-abused orals (like Munzer, allegedly)
-abused rec drugs
-never dropped their doses during the off season
-abused fat burners like clen (Big Kiwi (RIP), said that he used at least 400mcg of clen/day for extended periods during gaining phases, and ate bags of candy on the regular)
-used diuretics regularly (competing multiple times a year. Dillet was so loaded he went full statue onstage)
-ate shit (Palumbo claimed to pound down McDonalds like no one's business)
-had genetic disorders (like Flex Wheeler and Arnold)
-ignored warnings (Art Atwood had a heart attack but kept competing IIRC)
-stayed big after stopping competing (Nasser remained quite larger after he retired IIRC)
-walked around at 250-300+ pounds for YEARS at a time? Trevor Smith and Greg Kovacs were 400lbs... fuck yeah you're going to die if you get that big
We know that bodybuilding is a very expensive sport at the highest levels.. how often do you think these guys got checkups? how many of them spent money on support supplements? Competitions back then didn't pay shit (they still don't). Many of them charged their fans for signatures on their posters lol. you think they would spare any drug/food money on health-related stuff? unlikely.
are bodybuilding drugs the problem? or is stupidity?
but I digress
I thought Trevor Smith killed himself.
how many of those guys:
-had untreated sleep apnea
-did nothing about really high blood pressure
-abused pain killers
-abused orals (like Munzer, allegedly)
-abused rec drugs
-never dropped their doses during the off season
-abused fat burners like clen (Big Kiwi (RIP), said that he used at least 400mcg of clen/day for extended periods during gaining phases, and ate bags of candy on the regular)
-used diuretics regularly (competing multiple times a year. Dillet was so loaded he went full statue onstage)
-ate shit (Palumbo claimed to pound down McDonalds like no one's business)
-had genetic disorders (like Flex Wheeler and Arnold)
-ignored warnings (Art Atwood had a heart attack but kept competing IIRC)
-stayed big after stopping competing (Nasser remained quite larger after he retired IIRC)
-walked around at 250-300+ pounds for YEARS at a time? Trevor Smith and Greg Kovacs were 400lbs... fuck yeah you're going to die if you get that big
are bodybuilding drugs the problem? or is stupidity?
but I digress
Sure, we could negate the ill effects of almost anything by saying that the complexity of the world makes it impossible to narrow down the cause of something. This may be true, but it is an argument that totally discounts the mass of evidence that does suggest that high doses of AAS and AAS + HGH cause negative health issues.
Discounting these links is dangerous and provides an outlet for those less informed to continue abusing.
I am not ignoring what you brought up, just saying that it takes away from the general issue