The Transformation Of Physiques In The Gym Over Time

[BigCracker]

Every once in awhile I go to other gyms on my side of town. I always see someone that I haven't seen in awhile that's made impressive progress in gains. I've seen this countless times with AAS users, but I have yet to see a guy make this type of type of transformation using prohormones.

Many guys online talk about the incredible 30lb gains they made off some test/tren/dbol/misc. precursor. Here's my question, if prohormones are actually a worthwhile investment, how come I never see anyone make this kind of noticeable transformation using prohormones alone?

 

[cowsryummy]

I knew a bunch of guys in college that made huge progress with M1T and superdrol. One month they look like they're in track, the next they're looking like weight lifters. Definitely know three or four guys personally that have put on 15 lbs using prohormones only. Not uncommon in my meathead circle while at college.

 

[BigCracker]

I knew a bunch of guys in college that made huge progress with M1T and superdrol. One month they look like they're in track, the next they're looking like weight lifters. Definitely know three or four guys personally that have put on 15 lbs using prohormones only. Not uncommon in my meathead circle while at college.

Call me a skeptic, but how do you know these guys weren't using AAS or using AAS in addition to PH??? I know plenty of guys that lie about their gear use.

Also, isn't it possible that these guys trained harder and ate better because they invested $XXX.XX on PH, which could possibly yield them the same gains as if they never used the PH at all?

How many times have you heard someone talk about the smokin' deal they just got on a new car? We all know that buying a new car is the worst investment ever since they depreciate in value by 25% or more as soon as they're driven off the lot. However, we never hear someone say "check out my new whip, boy did the dealership assrape me! I paid a bazillion dollars over invoice, but who cares?" My point being, nobody likes to admit that they were ripped off(or they're in denial?), so maybe PH users "pad" their claims of gains with inflated stats in the same way???

 

[VNV]

M1T and superdrol are steroids. They're both scheduled, illegal drugs now, just like dianabol or anadrol.

Sure, there's no contest between an oral like superdrol and anadrol, but then again, there isn't between anavar and anadrol either.

 

[VNV]

I should add that, at one time, just like M1T or sdrol, both dbol and adrol were legal too. Hell, in the 70s, you could get ecstasy recommended to you by your psychiatrist (without a prescription), or legally make it in your chemistry class. That doesn't make E any less of a drug.

 

[cowsryummy]

I guess anything's possible, but I don't see a reason why they would have hidden it, especially with all the other crazy things that happened and they got themselves into during those times!

 

[brineal]

I should add that, at one time, just like M1T or sdrol, both dbol and adrol were legal too. Hell, in the 70s, you could get ecstasy recommended to you by your psychiatrist (without a prescription), or legally make it in your chemistry class. That doesn't make E any less of a drug.

that seems to be the pattern with almost every illicit drug. most are actually initially seen as a great benefit but nevertheless end up banned..

 

[RONJON]

I should add that, at one time, just like M1T or sdrol, both dbol and adrol were legal too. Hell, in the 70s, you could get ecstasy recommended to you by your psychiatrist (without a prescription), or legally make it in your chemistry class. That doesn't make E any less of a drug.

wow interesting..good point

 

[GoneForFuckingEver8]

Every once in awhile I go to other gyms on my side of town. I always see someone that I haven't seen in awhile that's made impressive progress in gains. I've seen this countless times with AAS users, but I have yet to see a guy make this type of type of transformation using prohormones.

Many guys online talk about the incredible 30lb gains they made off some test/tren/dbol/misc. precursor. Here's my question, if prohormones are actually a worthwhile investment, how come I never see anyone make this kind of noticeable transformation using prohormones alone?

maybe cause the guys talking about the tremendous gains fail to mention all the other shit they are taking along with the prophormones

 

[nsr54]

I should add that, at one time, just like M1T or sdrol, both dbol and adrol were legal too. Hell, in the 70s, you could get ecstasy recommended to you by your psychiatrist (without a prescription), or legally make it in your chemistry class. That doesn't make E any less of a drug.

Spot on, great point!!

 

[abolish the weak]

I took 1AD, superdrol, Andro stack, a bunch of them. and I got all of the side effects and very little gains. I'm almost tempted to buy this stuff called "RageRV5" because I know a bunch of people taking it and every one of them looks like they're growing, but for the cost of it I might as well just go get some real shit like dbols or anadrol. I'm convinced that most of the OTC shit, if it has any legitimacy to it at all, is mostly another version of Turinabol

 

[Jarconis]

back when the injectable prohormones were all the rage, i saw guys making great gains with 4ad and 1test cyp

 

[Hiramabiff]

Rage RV5 is the buisness if you can find the original formula.

I took 1AD, superdrol, Andro stack, a bunch of them. and I got all of the side effects and very little gains. I'm almost tempted to buy this stuff called "RageRV5" because I know a bunch of people taking it and every one of them looks like they're growing, but for the cost of it I might as well just go get some real shit like dbols or anadrol. I'm convinced that most of the OTC shit, if it has any legitimacy to it at all, is mostly another version of Turinabol

 

[rocco]

I know a guy that is taking tren extreme and havoc and he has gained around 25 lbs in the last 6 weeks and he is strong as an ox.He is 40 years old and has gone from 215 to 240 and his bench hasd gone from 365 for 1 to 425 for 1.The stuff seems to be working.

 

[RONJON]

I know a guy that is taking tren extreme and havoc and he has gained around 25 lbs in the last 6 weeks and he is strong as an ox.He is 40 years old and has gone from 215 to 240 and his bench hasd gone from 365 for 1 to 425 for 1.The stuff seems to be working.

wow thats damn good results there!

 

[notsobig32]

This is interesting because i am not sure how old everyone is but if you remember the first round of pre-cursors and pro-hormones that came out in the early to mid 90's but i honestly got great results from them. I didn't start taking them till i was over 200 lbs(i am short) but i added at least 10 lbs of fairly lean body mass using them.

I have little to no experience with the new line of pro-hormones that are out BUT i do have to say i know guys in the gym that are taking 1-2 grams of gear(you can't help but know because they run their mouths non-stop about it) and make very little if any progress. I have narrowed it down(in my mind) to 3 possible things: Them having bunk gear, them having abnormally low receptorr affinity, or them having the world's worst nutritional practices. otherwise i would imagine they should grow somewhat on the doseages they are blabbing about.

 

[cooper250]

thats because by the time they gain 30lbs there looking for a liver transplant.LOL

 

[Designbuilt]

I know a guy that is taking tren extreme and havoc and he has gained around 25 lbs in the last 6 weeks and he is strong as an ox.He is 40 years old and has gone from 215 to 240 and his bench hasd gone from 365 for 1 to 425 for 1.The stuff seems to be working.

Why is it that I keep hearing that older guys are making all of the gains? I read that yesterday as well on the "Spawn" thread.

Then there's Mark McGuire, he's no spring chicken either.

 

[cb11mass]

I would guess these older guys are making gains because they have low test and the introduction of higher hormone(not refering to natty test but the hormone in the PH) levels produce a greater physiological change then in some younger guy with already high test levels.