Torn Labrum, No military presses...

[Diesel1981]

Guys and girls,

I tore my labrum about 6-7 years ago. I got it repaired and went through PT and so forth. Over the years, it has felt almost as good as new. I continued to military press, but recently had another shoulder injury. I was told that military presses should be taken out immediately.
Here is my question.
Can one keep nicely developed delts or even add size without a pressing movement? I have heard some never press, but it has always been a staple for me.

Thoughts..

 

[PHIL HERNON]

Well

Guys and girls,

I tore my labrum about 6-7 years ago. I got it repaired and went through PT and so forth. Over the years, it has felt almost as good as new. I continued to military press, but recently had another shoulder injury. I was told that military presses should be taken out immediately.
Here is my question.
Can one keep nicely developed delts or even add size without a pressing movement? I have heard some never press, but it has always been a staple for me.

Thoughts..

I would never do them....ever......hence your problems.......

 

[kscowboy]

Phil-Are you talking about barbell presses or all shoulder pressing? How about machines like hammer strength shoulder press?

 

[mule]

I would never do them....ever......hence your problems.......

phil i have seen you say this about presses a few times, what do you like to do for shoulders instead. i am figuring different lateral variations?

 

[LATS]

i have not pressed in years.. my left shoulder can not do it.. i now can not even do overhead extensions for triceps.. but, since having a shoulder surgery is out of the question i just use side and rear laterals.. i would like to do more but, it is not in the cards.. but, training chest heavy and back heavy should give quite a bit of delt mass.. finish them off with laterals and that is all you should need..

 

[TRYN2]

Well, I have seen some strong guys preaching militarys on line lately. I have seen Ed Coan do 400lbs behind the nekc. I read once where Phil said he doesn't make any trainees do them. So I stopped.

Now with that being said I think it is important to keeping mobility in the shoulder joint, so I may use some light to medium weight for a warm up but never press heavy anymore.

Seems to be going fine with me. I think if I wanted or felt a need to do them, I would just do a high incline bench...

 

[repmks]

Guys and girls,

I tore my labrum about 6-7 years ago. I got it repaired and went through PT and so forth. Over the years, it has felt almost as good as new. I continued to military press, but recently had another shoulder injury. I was told that military presses should be taken out immediately.
Here is my question.
Can one keep nicely developed delts or even add size without a pressing movement? I have heard some never press, but it has always been a staple for me.

Thoughts..

i get the best anterior delt stimulation from the flat bench press.

 

[Beerado4u]

i have not pressed in years.. my left shoulder can not do it.. i now can not even do overhead extensions for triceps.. but, since having a shoulder surgery is out of the question i just use side and rear laterals.. i would like to do more but, it is not in the cards.. but, training chest heavy and back heavy should give quite a bit of delt mass.. finish them off with laterals and that is all you should need..

i am in the same boat with my right shoulder. injured it a year ago when it was purposely pulled back and down. now over head extensions are painfull.... and my shoulder cracks and makes funny noises....

 

[Flex2019]

Had a torn labrum as well as a hills-sachs lesion and some rotator cuff problems fixed on my right shoulder. I can do DB presses but I end up with pain after doing them for too long. Presses with a bar are completely out of the question. Lately I've trained with no shoulder presses whatsoever and my delts have still come up nicely.

 

[JonnyO]

I have a labrum tear as well as another somewhere in my rear delt, 2 actually but forget the names. I havent done pressing in a long time, and when I do I just cause more pain. Luckily, shoulders for me are a strong point. I do read delt work after back and I cannot go heavy, basically 40-50lbs on the reverse pec deck nice and slow with a good contraction and usually some cable work after that.

For delts I train them with chest, just side lateral work dumbell and cable.

 

[Michaelthomasj]

Guys and girls,

I tore my labrum about 6-7 years ago. I got it repaired and went through PT and so forth. Over the years, it has felt almost as good as new. I continued to military press, but recently had another shoulder injury. I was told that military presses should be taken out immediately.
Here is my question.
Can one keep nicely developed delts or even add size without a pressing movement? I have heard some never press, but it has always been a staple for me.

Thoughts..

I feel the same as you...barbell behing the neck are a staple for me as well. I have to do them, but thats me, and thats my head telling me that My partner never does them and he has huge delts. He loves side and rear lateral movements

 

[almard]

i have not pressed in years.. my left shoulder can not do it.. i now can not even do overhead extensions for triceps.. but, since having a shoulder surgery is out of the question i just use side and rear laterals.. i would like to do more but, it is not in the cards.. but, training chest heavy and back heavy should give quite a bit of delt mass.. finish them off with laterals and that is all you should need..

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