Training To Failure

[Equalizer]

You hear people talk about training to failure all the time. It seems to have a different meaning to some poeple than it does to others. Some people consider failure the point where they don't think that they can complete the next rep so they stop there. Others keep going until they actually fail to raise the weight and push or pull againest the bar for a few seconds after it stops moving. There also seems to be some people who consider failure the point when they can no longer lift a weight at a certain speed.

I was looking for some opinions on what you actually consider training to failure.

 

[Swollduck]

Failure for me is when I cant move the weight any further.

 

[juicin]

when the spotter needs to step in

 

[OUS-Rep]

Failure for me is when I cant move the weight any further.

when the spotter needs to step in

These two would be my definition also, with no more than 8-10 reps.

 

[J.Blaze]

Failure IMO is when you can move the damn bar another inch. The above also serve as a good definition.

 

[VOXpol]

IMO It's when I can't get another rep with good form

 

[kscowboy]

Im with VOX-I train to failure and i consider failure to be when i cant get another full rep with decent form. I train by myself so i dont force other reps after i fail.

 

[blacksterbmw]

I count true failure when u can't lift the weight yourself - positive failure then when ur spotter lifts and you negitives until you can't control the descent - negitive failure and then after that get the spotter to lift again and hold for as long as poss - static failure.
When you reach all three for me that is true failure, lots of pain but hey you only need the one set lol.

 

[readyset]

IMO It's when I can't get another rep with good form

agreed. If i break form the set is over.

 

[Stewie Griffon]

IMO It's when I can't get another rep with good form

doing a couple of last reps even with poor form isnt bad. when you are doing some curls and you get 10 reps with good form, cheating on another 3 isnt bad, THATS where the maximum stimulation takes place. forcing it up and fighting against it dropping - the eccentric phase.

of course some exercises can lead to injury with poor form so pick and choose carefully

 

[VOXpol]

doing a couple of last reps even with poor form isnt bad. when you are doing some curls and you get 10 reps with good form, cheating on another 3 isnt bad, THATS where the maximum stimulation takes place. forcing it up and fighting against it dropping - the eccentric phase.

of course some exercises can lead to injury with poor form so pick and choose carefully

I'm not saying I stop at that point. That's just what I consider "failure." I use various methods to push my set past that point (cheating, spotter, rest/pause, etc.) It's really just semantics I guess.

How many sets does everyone take to or past failure for a bodypart. for me it's usually around 4-6

 

[blacksterbmw]

For big muscles I'll do 2 sets in the fashion I wrote earlier and for arms its just the 1 - so far I've seen a good improvement over what I was doing before, which was multiple sets per body part each to positive failure.

 

[musclemachine]

To failure..is i can do any more .than i switch to lighter weight and go over kill one more time till totally fail .that is the toughest i tried.

 

[aussiebulldog]

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How many sets does everyone take to or past failure for a bodypart. for me it's usually around 4-6

three time in one set. (dc)

 

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