Let me start by saying I have used Tren many times. I have also tried many different brands as well as different kits with doses ranging from 50mg ED to 150mg ED. I am somewhat confused from all the Yay Fina praises.. I feel tren is not as spectacular as everyone makes it out to be. I recognize its muscle sparring properties which makes it a good choice for a cutting cycle; However, there are AAS's out there that can rival its anti-catabolic effects without the harsh side effects, specially the hpta suppression.. For strenght, I find Dbol (I would say ABombs too, but the sides are also pretty harsh, more so than other AAS) to be much better and winny or var to be just as good. For mass, it blows, Test+Dbol will pack much more mass. But it seems that besides Test, Tren would get an almost unanimous decision in the AAS discussion boards as the best roid out there. Can I get your honest reviews? Am I the only one that does not respond as well to Tren?