What is the theory behind cutting all oils approaching a show?

TooPowerful4u · Feb 17, 2005

I have been hearing a lot latly that a lot of good competitors (or the ones i know of) that compete in nationals like to cut out all oils precontest (say 4 weeks out). I was under the impression masteron or fina would be fine to run up to a show and would actually improve your condition? right? wrong? Most of the guys i know run winny,var, halo, suspension, anti-e's up to a show.

Coopie · Feb 18, 2005

The strategy is to eliminate the oils and thereby eliminating any chance of water retention that is TEST-based. So, stop the oils a few weeks out, allowing them proper time to clear, and in the meantime you swap into SUSPENSION. With the SUSPENSION you can tailor, on a daily basis, how much test you're getting - and how much H2O you're retaining.

The masteron, winny, etc are all fin right up to a show, it's just the Test's (cyp, prop, enth, sust, etc) that you wanna kill earlier.

dirkmoneyshot · Feb 18, 2005

This is something that is never said, but i know a lot of guys do it for this reason. 1.) Yes you will tend to hold water on Test and other androgens so eliminating them 2 weeks out is must. 2.) However i am seeing a lot of guys stopping all shots at least 1 week out - No matter what it is because the actual process of doing a intramuscular injection will cause localized trauma. And how does our body deal - Pulls water into that area. So if you wanna be extremely hard.

1.) No Test or other heavy androgen 2 weeks out.
2.) No IM anabolics at least 1 week out (Primo, Eq, ect)
3.) Load on your Winstrol and Halotestin the last week along with keeping anti-e up (proviron, nolvadex, arimidex)

TooPowerful4u · Feb 18, 2005

dirkmoneyshot said:
3.) Load on your Winstrol and Halotestin the last week along with keeping anti-e up (proviron, nolvadex, arimidex)

I was planning to do this but not sure exactly why this is done and the effect it has. Could anybody possibly tell me? I was gonna wait til i finnished depleating and started loading, and as soon as my load starts bump halo from 20mg to 30, winny 50mg to 75, and throw in a drol tab 1 day out and day of show. Also will have anti-e's havent decided which yet. If i can get some help with the cytadren then that might be an option. Otherwise i was going to go with 4 weeks out proviron 50mg ED, arimidex .5ED, and throw in aromasin the last week.

Skip · Feb 18, 2005

dirkmoneyshot said:
This is something that is never said, but i know a lot of guys do it for this reason. 1.) Yes you will tend to hold water on Test and other androgens so eliminating them 2 weeks out is must. 2.) However i am seeing a lot of guys stopping all shots at least 1 week out - No matter what it is because the actual process of doing a intramuscular injection will cause localized trauma. And how does our body deal - Pulls water into that area. So if you wanna be extremely hard.

1.) No Test or other heavy androgen 2 weeks out.
2.) No IM anabolics at least 1 week out (Primo, Eq, ect)
3.) Load on your Winstrol and Halotestin the last week along with keeping anti-e up (proviron, nolvadex, arimidex)

You are everywhere, aren't you?

Your advice is dead on. For those of you who don't like to stop IM shots before your show, you will regret it the first time you have a bad shot that seeps and turns your arm or leg or whatever all soft and thickens your skin. I had the scare of my life this last year at 9 days out. The one arm from the delt to the elbow on the outside looked as if it was 8 weeks out when everything else was nailed and ready to go. I got lucky because it only lasted about 5 days. Had that been in the last week, I would have been fucked.

Skip