whats the diff between Cyp and Enth??

[cryptasm]

I cant seem to figure the difference between Cyp and Enth or why to use one over the other...
Can someone shed some light here for me as to your prefernce and why..
And whats the differnce????

 

[terryd5150]

Answers.

Cypionate and enanthate are different esters. Both are longer acting esters. The primary difference is that enanthate is a lighter ester than cypionate meaning that 200mg of test enth. will contain more actual test than 200 mg cypionate due to the lighter ester taking up less weight of the 200mg; however, that difference is almost impossible to tell when using the two. I can tell you that one thing that seems to give enth. the advantage is that it is usually dosed at 250mg/mL vs. test cypionate at 200mg/mL. These both cost about the same (one of the board sponsors sells BD enth. 250 for the same price as BD cyp. 200) meaning that with enth. you get more test (read-kick) for the money.
As for as other advantages/disadvantages to both that is usually a personal preference issue as to which people prefer. Some like enth. others like cyp. Me personally I prefer sustanon 250 over both of them.


Hope that helps.
-terryd5150-

 

[xcelbeyond]

Some people tend to hold water on enanthate - I don't. Other than that, all I can think of is the Cypionate powder is easier to store as Enanthate has a VERY low melting point and turns into a paste.

 

[cryptasm]

terryd

Me personally I prefer sustanon 250 over both of them??

Why??

because 4 dif esters??

Would you use sust all year long as a base??

 

[cryptasm]

Some people tend to hold water on enanthate - I don't. Other than that, all I can think of is the Cypionate powder is easier to store as Enanthate has a VERY low melting point and turns into a paste.

Thats if you are making it yourself right???

But if I am in a country where its not illegal and can get pharm grade..then this isnt an issue... so based on that whats your choice and why??

 

[xcelbeyond]

Cypionate was my first cycle. I just tend to like it over Enanthate - no real logical reason.

 

[cryptasm]

Cypionate was my first cycle. I just tend to like it over Enanthate - no real logical reason.

Cool ..dosent have to be a logical reason...I just cant understand the diference between the two... Foe some reason I am leaning toward enth for a constant base...I dont know why but I think it is cleaner and beter but I dont have any idea why I have that opinion because I cant see any difference.. Like u no logical reason...

 

[rAJJIN]

I like to switch from one to the other....
cant say Ive noticed One being superior or Much of a differance at all
in results. What brands are you looking at?

 

[terryd5150]

Me personally I prefer sustanon 250 over both of them??

Why??

because 4 dif esters??

Would you use sust all year long as a base??

I make better gains on 250 that with cyp or enth and I hold less water. I also find that I don't have to keep ramping up the dosages as with cyp and enth. plus sustanon stacks REALLY well with deca for me. Usually it is things like that that make people prefer one over the other. Some people retain more or less water on one than the other, better gains, etc. I suggest you may want to try all of them and decide what works best for you. I don't mean to bash cyp. or enth., I've made good gains on both, I just prefer sustanon- I seem to keep a sharper "edge" that with the others.
As for year round I would use all of them as a base (cyp,enth,or sustanon).
Try them all, and then pick the one that works the best to use as your year-round base.


-terryd5150-

 

[Jarconis]

I make better gains on 250 that with cyp or enth and I hold less water. I also find that I don't have to keep ramping up the dosages as with cyp and enth. plus sustanon stacks REALLY well with deca for me. Usually it is things like that that make people prefer one over the other. Some people retain more or less water on one than the other, better gains, etc. I suggest you may want to try all of them and decide what works best for you. I don't mean to bash cyp. or enth., I've made good gains on both, I just prefer sustanon- I seem to keep a sharper "edge" that with the others.
As for year round I would use all of them as a base (cyp,enth,or sustanon).
Try them all, and then pick the one that works the best to use as your year-round base.


-terryd5150-

test is test man, I dont see where you are getting this " i make better gains on this or that". Also, unless you are pinning Sustanon eod, and maybe you were, its hard to keep blood lvls constant because so many of the short esters in sust.

 

[bigbaldbulldog]

I like to switch from one to the other....
cant say Ive noticed One being superior or Much of a differance at all
in results. What brands are you looking at?

I did the same back in the day..i did how ever hold alot more water on cyp, almost twice as much infact then i did with enanathate... not much difference other then that for me.. both are great

 

[cryptasm]

I did the same back in the day..i did how ever hold alot more water on cyp, almost twice as much infact then i did with enanathate... not much difference other then that for me.. both are great

From what I understand cyp is a longer acting ester and from what I've read yhe longer the ester the more water retention and aromitization... I've used all three... just wondering ??? Isthere an advantage from one to the other or just personal preference??

 

[AWN2004]

There are a bunch of multi-estered drugs out there. You have your sust, omnandren, testoprim D, sten, T-400, and various other combos most anti-aging clinics have compounded. The thing about testosterone is that it is just that....test. In other words once its active in your blood, its going to have the same effect. Im not saying anything most people dont allready know, but mainly the thing I noticed the most was the time it took the different coumpounds to take effect on my body. If I could use any test it would either be prop or suspension. Those two are very fast acting and particularly suspension hits you like a ton of bricks. The half life of the coupounds are short though and thus daily injects are needed which makes it a pain, literaly. Does one feel different than the other? I never really noticed a difference except with the shorter estered drugs but after they take effect, they feel the same as far as what they are intened to do (strength gains, libido increase, ect). Newbies often choose a long lasting ester because you dont have to stick yourself so often but then again Im an advocate of breaking up the total dose over the week anyway instead of taking it all at once. Its just a matter of prefference and Ive seen this topic get beaten to death. Just go with what works for you.

 

[Vanilla-Gorilla]

I did the same back in the day..i did how ever hold alot more water on cyp, almost twice as much infact then i did with enanathate... not much difference other then that for me.. both are great

Yep, we are paddling the same boat here.

 

[Big Ed]

same shit to me. I go with what is less expensive.

 

[bigbadasian]

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|--[\\\\]>-------- As far as gains go, i seem to get the same results whether or not i use one or the other, the only dif. to me is i seem to 'feel' cyp kick in a lot faster than enanthate. but thats just me.

 

[terryd5150]

test is test man, I dont see where you are getting this " i make better gains on this or that". Also, unless you are pinning Sustanon eod, and maybe you were, its hard to keep blood lvls constant because so many of the short esters in sust.

Just posting what works best for me. I keep a harder, more defined look when on sustanon 250 than cyp or enth. As for the injections, 1mL every five days. I know there's always a scientist in every crowd that swears you can't make gains on 250 b/c of unstable blood levels, blah blah, blah, but a lot of people love the stuff 'cause it works. In theory a bumblebee shouldn't be able to fly either, but it does. I believe my advice was for for the guy to try everything and find what works best for him. I'm telling you what works for me, don't tell me what does or doesn't.


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