That's exactly what i think. Orals designed for human use (stanozolol, oxandrolone, oxymetholone, fluoxymesterone) are not very toxic in reasonable doses. I've seen some studies on halotestin with months or even years of continuos use up to 25 mg per day (a boy with hypogonadism up to 6 year straight on halo).Personally not more than 6 weeks (lipid concerns worse for men generally), though I've seen perfectly healthy women run var or winny for 12 mo+ at 10-15 mg daily. The 17AAs commercially available (oxandrolone, stanozolol, oxymetholone, and yes - fluoxymesterone also) are not particularly hepatotoxic. It's lipid derangement that is the prevailing concern more than hepatotoxicity in healthy users.
I think you basically answered what I was going to ask you, but why is it that you think those are less toxic than UG orals?Personally not more than 6 weeks (lipid concerns worse for men generally), though I've seen perfectly healthy women run var or winny for 12 mo+ at 10-15 mg daily. The 17AAs commercially available (oxandrolone, stanozolol, oxymetholone, and yes - fluoxymesterone also) are not particularly hepatotoxic. It's lipid derangement that is the prevailing concern more than hepatotoxicity in healthy users.
Did you take liver aids?I ran 12 weeks of winny at 350mg weekly on top of 15 weeks of Tren at 525mg (test was in there as well). I think ALT was a point or so out of range and AST was top of range. Lipids weren't much worse than where 600mg of primobolan puts me honestly though primo has zero liver impact on me.
Ran var and var/winny combo at 350mg a week for 12 weeks. Doesn't help blood markers but similar to above on me.
These were past 5 years so I was in my 40s, getting bloods and monitoring. Not recommended for best course for health or older guys and probably won't run them that long again even though I tolerate them fine but figured I'd a answer.
Nope. I try to drink a lot of water. Not a regular drinker so maybe socially 1x a week. If I'm running stuff like this (orals/tren) I'll try not to overdo it but has happened.Did you take liver aids?
Same here including 100mg anadrol, 80mg var, 50mg halo, 300mg chop, 150mg windy, superdrol@30mg. Not all at once but 4-16 weeks at a time. When I was young and wreckless. I had bloods every 6 months due to work requirements and high cholesterol was the only thing that was present and I’m sure that was the 6-8k caloriesyears at a time without breaks just rotating compounds
300mg/day?!?! I don’t get how guys even go above 100mg/day.i accidentally ran wini for about 2 years. i forgot my tne was tne + wini had a liter i was using for trt/test. dont really remember the dose. prob more then 150mg week. figuring i used to run about 300mg of t wk as normal life. half would have been wini. probably it was more at times and slightly less at others.
i have run high doses of anadrol for 3-4 months. 100-300mg ed. i have run drol plus whatever orals were around for 3-4 months at 300mgs ed total.
no blood blood work done. took lots of other shit.
im still here.
Back when I was on alot of stuff I didn't see anything from drol unless it was 150. Now that I stay around 500 mg total AAS a week I see something from 50. If it kills your appetite sounds like a perfect diet drug. Wish something would kill my appetite.300mg/day?!?! I don’t get how guys even go above 100mg/day.
50mg/day kills my appetite. 100mg/day - great pumps/strength but 0 appetite and acid reflux.