You longest high dose cruise

[specter]

Yep, I was only 160 lbs in that pic..LMAO, i was small as fuck, but LEAN!

Dang man, fuckin respect that looks hella wild!

 

[Cerberus777]

Yep, I was only 160 lbs in that pic..LMAO, i was small as fuck, but LEAN!

Yeah but you're shorter. Looks better than 190 on someone taller. Not knocking you I'm 5'6"

 

[marssel]

The problem is that threads like this make lifestyle guys or young guys confirm their bias and think they can take the lazy path (which doesn’t work as gear doesn’t make you grow- food and heavy ass training does).

What guys like me, @luki7788 and @danieltx are referencing when we talk about responsible usage at high dosages is for the top level bodybuilder.

That does not mean every kid or lifestyle guy should be cruising on 1g of test for years. Quite the opposite.

Not to mention they don’t train hard enough or eat enough to even begin thinking of dosages that high.

There are levels to this and that is the only thing people should take away from threads like this IMO.

Well said to add a quick note even if training and diet are on point PEDs don’t overcome bad genetics either. If you’re not competing and/or making your living with the lifestyle I agree high doses are not gonna do good, I blaim social media, maybe the IFBB guys were always taking a ton but when I started out 2 amps of test and two amps of Norma Hellas was a HUGE jump. I never heard anyone talking about a gram of test or tren in a first cycle.

 

[Siggy]

I ran 750 for a lot of years and so far all my health is still good at 45. I think 750 for 10 years is easier on the body than 3,000 for a year.

Ive been on 900mg Since at least July of last year and I plan on staying on 900mg for at least another year to possibly 3 more years if my markers are decent.

But Im not about to condone doing this to anyone else or pretend that its healthy because my markers arent in the gutter.

I also subscribe to the philosophy of lower for longer compared to super high blasts. I think from a health standpoint it makes sense and also, don’t have to take multiple steps back when transitioning to a true TRT phase after pushing super high doses for months.

Long cycles on a moderate dose have always worker better for me, personally than a couple of large short term blasts.

My best cycle ever was one year straight on 500mg Test E. I gained more strength and mass in that one year than doing 2 different cycles in one year,each one lasting 3 months, of 1 to 1.5 grams.

 

[Sectør]

I like cruising on 375 test personally. Just feel great, health markers recover quick, and you still feel like you’re on super natural doses and make good progress.

Could probably get away with cruising on less (250) or more (500) but 375 just feels right to me. Can run that year round with 0 issues on bloodwork as long as cardio is in and the diets good

 

[AlphaFitt]

my highest cruise was 500mg a week for 8 weeks . Felt great and kept all my gains

 

[Mufasa123]

Not really high dose but on week 38 of 200 test/200 deca. Best bloods since my 20s recently.

Done 2 years before, 1 year, and plenty of 18-22 weeks. Lots of 8-12 weeks. No issues recovering fast to baseline bloods from bigger blasts.

Looking to try something else just to mix it up. Maybe something drier as well. If it hits lipids, liver, etc I don't view it as a viable longer term cruise candidate.

 

[Dens228]

I've been on 50 mgs/day for over a year. I honestly look and feel better than even when I go a bit higher but inject twice a week. 500, 600, 750 mgs a week over spread between two injections adds nothing but a bit of water.

 

[Zamun]

I've been on 50 mgs/day for over a year. I honestly look and feel better than even when I go a bit higher but inject twice a week. 500, 600, 750 mgs a week over spread between two injections adds nothing but a bit of water.

Exactly what I’ve been doin, 50 prop a day. Feel great.

 

[deadmanwalking]

I've been on 50 mgs/day for over a year. I honestly look and feel better than even when I go a bit higher but inject twice a week. 500, 600, 750 mgs a week over spread between two injections adds nothing but a bit of water.

Exactly what I’ve been doin, 50 prop a day. Feel great.

How’s estrogen management on this dose for you guys?

 

[Zamun]

How’s estrogen management on this dose for you guys?

I tried 12.5 aromasin once a week and my estrogen came back at 21~. So assuming I don’t need AI at this dose.

 

[Gaintrain]

for cruising purposes I find a test only cruise at 300mg is my sweet spot dose, or I like a Test & Mast cruise @ 200 to 200......for along as my blood work says I'm good......

 

[KingOfSushi]

I ran 750 for a lot of years and so far all my health is still good at 45. I think 750 for 10 years is easier on the body than 3,000 for a year.

I would not consider health good considering your kidney

 

[tommyguns2]

Luki laid it out pretty well a while back when asked what he recommends for guys not interested in competing or just being a freak of nature. Not judging anyone but this should be enough for most IMO - at least a starting point for the first few years.

200 test year round
500 for 16 weeks for a bulk
100-200 tren on top for 8-10 weeks during a cut

I started PEDs at age 40, and have been running constantly for the past 17 years, with a protocol basically like that above. About 200mg test year round, with periodic bumps up to 300mg/wk with an oral (e.g., var, winny, tbol or drol). Would then throw in tren and/or mast at 75-100mg/wk in the spring. Was able to hold about 225-235 at 12-15%BF through that entire time. By no means a freak of nature, but bigger and leaner than most in my gym.

For me, key was consistency in my training. Could my diet have been better? Absolutely. That was my limiting factor, but didn't really want to compete during that time frame.

 

[Dens228]

How’s estrogen management on this dose for you guys?

I don't take anything for it.

 

[Gaintrain]

I ran 750 for a lot of years and so far all my health is still good at 45. I think 750 for 10 years is easier on the body than 3,000 for a year.

unlike others that have posted in regards to your experience I think your approach at that dose for longer period of time compared to a year blast at 3000mg is better for health longevity for sure!!

but it all comes down to taking the preventative maintenance precautions while on blast or cruise etc but lets face it are we ALL doing this to the best of our ability day in and day out probably not, but I will say this id rather blast 3000 mg test a year then be a Alcoholic.......

 

[Tomgrass]

Luki laid it out pretty well a while back when asked what he recommends for guys not interested in competing or just being a freak of nature. Not judging anyone but this should be enough for most IMO - at least a starting point for the first few years.

200 test year round
500 for 16 weeks for a bulk
100-200 tren on top for 8-10 weeks during a cut

Exactly what I am doing but instead of 500mg test i have 250 mg test and 280mg tbol per week. And I do of course 2-3 much shorter cycle per year (4weeks) but his advice is on point.

 

[marssel]

unlike others that have posted in regards to your experience I think your approach at that dose for longer period of time compared to a year blast at 3000mg is better for health longevity for sure!!

but it all comes down to taking the preventative maintenance precautions while on blast or cruise etc but lets face it are we ALL doing this to the best of our ability day in and day out probably not, but I will say this id rather blast 3000 mg test a year then be a Alcoholic.......

For sure I wanna life my life on my terms and being an alcoholic is way worse and you endanger others as well. I always like long long runs of 750 and so far being over 45 my health is still good, just beat cancer, getting by well on covid vaccine damaged kidneys and honestly during my say 6 years of IVF my BF and diet weren’t the best. Still cholesterol, trigs, BP all good to go and mind you I’m still 244 lbs so smaller than in over a decade and a half but not small even though I feel tiny. Getting older fucking blows that’s for sure.

 

[KyleSmith1985]

250mg test + 200mg tren. Ran that for about 10 years continuously. I figured out I could run TrenE long term whereas TrenA would give me lots of sides. I regularly did bloodwork and watched my BP. This “cruise” was so effective I rarely needed to run anything else. Threw in 500mg of npp when I wanted to blast.

Now that I’m a bit older(35) am more cardio focused and can’t be super sweaty(partner dancing) no more tren, still cruise on 250mg test.

 

[KingOfSushi]

For sure I wanna life my life on my terms and being an alcoholic is way worse and you endanger others as well. I always like long long runs of 750 and so far being over 45 my health is still good, just beat cancer, getting by well on covid vaccine damaged kidneys and honestly during my say 6 years of IVF my BF and diet weren’t the best. Still cholesterol, trigs, BP all good to go and mind you I’m still 244 lbs so smaller than in over a decade and a half but not small even though I feel tiny. Getting older fucking blows that’s for sure.

Bro, why do you keep saying your health is good when you also said your kidneys are 40% with a sub 30 eGFR?