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Who's got Sleep Apnea

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Im almost positive I have it. If I fall asleep on my back sometimes i'll wake up and gasp for breath and i've always snored unbareably loud. I have an appt on the 20th with a specialist to get checked but I got a few ?'s. Lets say I do have it. What happens? There is no way im sleeping with one of those big ass cpap machines. Is there a surgery? If so is it mild? And how long will it take before you can train again?
 

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Im almost positive I have it. If I fall asleep on my back sometimes i'll wake up and gasp for breath and i've always snored unbareably loud. I have an appt on the 20th with a specialist to get checked but I got a few ?'s. Lets say I do have it. What happens? There is no way im sleeping with one of those big ass cpap machines. Is there a surgery? If so is it mild? And how long will it take before you can train again?

Have it....surgery is not mild... not a very successful in many cases....and if taking HRT not really an option........surgery your down for 2-3 weeks.
 

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dental appliance

there is a dental appliance that you pop in your mouth at night that aligns your jaw in such a way as to keep the stuctures in your throat from collapsing over your airways when you sleep. do a google search for sleep apnea dental appliance. here's a link......**broken link removed**
 
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there is a dental appliance that you pop in your mouth at night that aligns your jaw in such a way as to keep the stuctures in your throat from collapsing over your airways when you sleep. do a google search for sleep apnea dental appliance. here's a link......**broken link removed**

I looked at one, but my insurance wouldn't cover it and it was $2500.
 

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Have it....surgery is not mild... not a very successful in many cases....and if taking HRT not really an option........surgery your down for 2-3 weeks.

2-3weeks fuck that. thats ridiculous. When you say taking HRT not an option what do you mean?
 

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I looked at one, but my insurance wouldn't cover it and it was $2500.

There is a dental device called "Silentnite" that must be fitted with impressions. Cost me $500. Pulls the jaw forward so it doesn't fall back when you relax.
 

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Im almost positive I have it. If I fall asleep on my back sometimes i'll wake up and gasp for breath and i've always snored unbareably loud. I have an appt on the 20th with a specialist to get checked but I got a few ?'s. Lets say I do have it. What happens? There is no way im sleeping with one of those big ass cpap machines. Is there a surgery? If so is it mild? And how long will it take before you can train again?

Seriously though, lifespan of a sleep apnea suffer is about 10 years before life threatening cardiac problems occur as per my doctor. Once you use a cpap you will realize that you really weren't sleeping very well. CPAP isn't a cure in my opinion but it helps. I'd say before CPAP I slept a 3 out of 10, meaning I'd wake up at least 20 times(that I remember) a night to change body positions. I thought this was normal. A normal person usually sleeps from pillow to wake without waking. With cpap I'd say I have a 6 out of 10 sleep and combined with the dental device I get a 7. I have moderate apnea where I stop breathing maybe 30 to 50 times an hour if I remember correctly.

Gasping for air is a sure sign of it. Like coming up for air after you've been underwater for a minute or two. Another indicator is that you will be asleep within 5 minutes(sometimes faster) after your head hits the pillow.

I'm also not overweight so the doctors were a little skeptical when I presented myself that I had apnea.

Surgery isn't very successful for what I was told. It's called the PPP and it's really rough. The surgeon that I consulted said that pain is 8 out of 10. But that they could provide pain killers but he emphasized that it was not a comfortable healing period. An acquaintance had it and he got good results. There is a small chance of bleed out at around 3 weeks when the scabs start coming off and have to be careful around that time frame.

Good luck in your treatment.
 
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Fuck me...

I prob. have it.....working things out with dr. and training as well...hopefully can reverse things:(
 

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There is a dental device called "Silentnite" that must be fitted with impressions. Cost me $500. Pulls the jaw forward so it doesn't fall back when you relax.

Any...


My sleep doc is pissed my endo has me on 200mg test week. Said just use the CPAP beaus surgery most likely wont help in the long run.
 

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You quoted me but I'm sorry I don't understand what "Any..." means. I was just trying to suggest an alternative that was cheaper than $2500. Mine was fitted by a dentist and sent off to be made. Took about a month to get back.
 
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Seriously though, lifespan of a sleep apnea suffer is about 10 years before life threatening cardiac problems occur as per my doctor. Once you use a cpap you will realize that you really weren't sleeping very well. CPAP isn't a cure in my opinion but it helps. I'd say before CPAP I slept a 3 out of 10, meaning I'd wake up at least 20 times(that I remember) a night to change body positions. I thought this was normal. A normal person usually sleeps from pillow to wake without waking. With cpap I'd say I have a 6 out of 10 sleep and combined with the dental device I get a 7. I have moderate apnea where I stop breathing maybe 30 to 50 times an hour if I remember correctly.

Gasping for air is a sure sign of it. Like coming up for air after you've been underwater for a minute or two. Another indicator is that you will be asleep within 5 minutes(sometimes faster) after your head hits the pillow.

I'm also not overweight so the doctors were a little skeptical when I presented myself that I had apnea.

Surgery isn't very successful for what I was told. It's called the PPP and it's really rough. The surgeon that I consulted said that pain is 8 out of 10. But that they could provide pain killers but he emphasized that it was not a comfortable healing period. An acquaintance had it and he got good results. There is a small chance of bleed out at around 3 weeks when the scabs start coming off and have to be careful around that time frame.

Good luck in your treatment.

I was told the surgery was very painful and healing process sucked as well. Also success rate was not high. From what I have looked up I found this to appear true.

There are newer studies out sleep apnea is caused by contractile issues in muscles in throat,associated with type II fiber shift, neuropathic process affectiing motor nerves and stress related to hypoxia-reoxygenation, leading to inflammation as well, and result in muscle fatigability of muscles in throat.

A body mass index of 30 or more (regardless of bodyfat) and neck measurement of greater than 17' is associated with increased risk of developing sleep apnea. There was a study done in the NFL that showed many players had greater risk in developing sleep apnea even the ones with lower bodyfat non lineman.
 

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I was told the surgery was very painful and healing process sucked as well. Also success rate was not high. From what I have looked up I found this to appear true.

There are newer studies out sleep apnea is caused by contractile issues in muscles in throat,associated with type II fiber shift, neuropathic process affectiing motor nerves and stress related to hypoxia-reoxygenation, leading to inflammation as well, and result in muscle fatigability of muscles in throat.

A body mass index of 30 or more (regardless of bodyfat) and neck measurement of greater than 17' is associated with increased risk of developing sleep apnea. There was a study done in the NFL that showed many players had greater risk in developing sleep apnea even the ones with lower bodyfat non lineman.

Interesting stuff. Thanks.
 

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If you still have your tonsils then there is a greater chance of the surgery being successful, as there is more tissue that can be easily removed. The pain is similar to a tonsillectomy, but covers a wider area of the throat. They remove pieces of the soft pallet, uvula, back of your throat and tonsils. I had this+a tonsillectomy done at the same time and the results were night and day. I was working again after a week and a half(I have a very physical job, desk job you could be back sooner) Back in the gym after 3 weeks I'd say.

You can't eat solid foods for the first week or two after, depending on how extensive your surgery is the time will vary. I lost a fair amount of weight...nothing that a little test couldn't fix though. The painkillers made a night and day difference, I was doubling up on them though.

I can now run on 6 hours of sleep and feel better than I used to from 8 hours of sleep, my snoring is significantly better. My girlfriend back then wouldn't stay the night with me because I snored so loud she couldn't sleep. Now I'm told I barely snore. If you can afford the time off for proper recovery, and your insurance will cover the surgery I'd reccomend atleast trying it.

The recovery time would probably be shorter if you don't have a tonsillectomy done at the same time...My tonsils were huge and left very big holes for a long time. The only odd thing is for a month or so after the surgery when you swallow it feels kind of weird, but you get over that quickly.
 

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You quoted me but I'm sorry I don't understand what "Any..." means. I was just trying to suggest an alternative that was cheaper than $2500. Mine was fitted by a dentist and sent off to be made. Took about a month to get back.

Any meaning even low dose HRT @ 200mg week.

I had the fittings/molding completed at the dentist which were covered, but insurance would not cover the cost to make the piece, which was quoited at $2500.00.

How you like yours.
 

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If you still have your tonsils then there is a greater chance of the surgery being successful, as there is more tissue that can be easily removed. The pain is similar to a tonsillectomy, but covers a wider area of the throat. They remove pieces of the soft pallet, uvula, back of your throat and tonsils. I had this+a tonsillectomy done at the same time and the results were night and day. I was working again after a week and a half(I have a very physical job, desk job you could be back sooner) Back in the gym after 3 weeks I'd say.

You can't eat solid foods for the first week or two after, depending on how extensive your surgery is the time will vary. I lost a fair amount of weight...nothing that a little test couldn't fix though. The painkillers made a night and day difference, I was doubling up on them though.

I can now run on 6 hours of sleep and feel better than I used to from 8 hours of sleep, my snoring is significantly better. My girlfriend back then wouldn't stay the night with me because I snored so loud she couldn't sleep. Now I'm told I barely snore. If you can afford the time off for proper recovery, and your insurance will cover the surgery I'd reccomend atleast trying it.

The recovery time would probably be shorter if you don't have a tonsillectomy done at the same time...My tonsils were huge and left very big holes for a long time. The only odd thing is for a month or so after the surgery when you swallow it feels kind of weird, but you get over that quickly.


They take the adenoids out also I believe. I was told mine would be taken out along with my tonsils and uvula trimmed with a laser. I was told if I wanted to remain large person muscular 220 plus pounds person for my height and be on HRT chances of success were not good and that they no longer recommend surgery.
 

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Any meaning even low dose HRT @ 200mg week.

I had the fittings/molding completed at the dentist which were covered, but insurance would not cover the cost to make the piece, which was quoited at $2500.00.

How you like yours.

I think it helps but by itself it isn't drastic. It can pull the jaw more forward but i haven't tried to do that because I think it has changed my bite somewhat.
 

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You're worried about the machine? Shit, I deployed to Iraq with it as an infantryman. Try to imagine how bad infantry joes fuck with each other, now add in someone with a CPAP and you can just imagine the shit they did to me. Crimping my hose, teabagging it.. etc.. Imagine trying to sleep in a humvee on patrol for a week with it. Now that's when it sucks, not when it's in your bedroom

Get the CPAP, it's no big deal. Fuck I don't even remember I have it on sometimes when I wake up at night to go to the bathroom and rip the hose out of the machine...LOL. It's simply a way of life for me now. Don't worry about when you can start training again. Sleep apnea effectively takes about 20 years off your life. What good is training when you're dead at 55 from an MI. Shit, my father died at 44. Call me crazy but I'll take the hassle of the machine for 20 extra years of life.
 
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They take the adenoids out also I believe. I was told mine would be taken out along with my tonsils and uvula trimmed with a laser. I was told if I wanted to remain large person muscular 220 plus pounds person for my height and be on HRT chances of success were not good and that they no longer recommend surgery.

I usually sit between 240-255 and haven't had any problems with my sleep apnea as of late. I also started regularly taking allergy medicine to help reduce inflammation in my throat due to allergens.
 

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Sheryl Crow has sleep apnea. You asked who had it, and she does ;)
 

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