Why do some people suggest using Glucose Disposal Agents?

[Amazon Doll]

Chromium and Vanadyl Sulfate are the ones I have heard about.

I'm trying to understand why a person who is trying to build mass would want to cut down the blood glucose reaction to carbs by using these supplements that can lower blood glucose from a higher number when eating a high carb meal.

 

[KillerStack]

The idea is that they will partition more carbs into muscle tissue. Though the truth is that they are indiscriminate mostly (as in the case of ALA and many of the diabetes drugs).

 

[performanceplus]

I use chromium, vanadyl sulfate and magnesium as glucose disposal agents for the purpose as discussed in Dan Duchaines book "Body Opus" in attempt to utilize carbohydrates in the body for use in attempt to get myself into ketosis faster when that is my goal.. hope that helps.

 

[speedbacker]

Yes, the goal is to improve insulin sensitivity, which should improve your muscle:Fat gain ratio in favor of muscle.

 

[performanceplus]

Yes, the goal is to improve insulin sensitivity, which should improve your muscle:Fat gain ratio in favor of muscle.

I'm not sure how it would improve your muscle fat ratio..? Please explain.

I was saying I use glucose disposal agents to get myself into ketosis faster, when going that route (which hasn't been in years honestly)

 

[Massive G]

I never felt much from chromium or R-ALA (which I use for liver and anti-ox) but Vandyl PH from sport pharma was like Dbol for me when I first took it in the early 90's. Insane pumps and fullness.
Just like good ol creatine mono. Thing was it lost it's effects after a while and both had to be cycled to get the feeling again.

 

[speedbacker]

I'm not sure how it would improve your muscle fat ratio..? Please explain.

I was saying I use glucose disposal agents to get myself into ketosis faster, when going that route (which hasn't been in years honestly)

Here is a good article:

http://www.tsrf.com/articles/article_insulin.htm

 

[muscledoc1]

Here is a good article:

http://www.tsrf.com/articles/article_insulin.htm

That is a good article,thanks.

 

[JW]

Chromium and Vanadyl Sulfate are the ones I have heard about.

I'm trying to understand why a person who is trying to build mass would want to cut down the blood glucose reaction to carbs by using these supplements that can lower blood glucose from a higher number when eating a high carb meal.

That's what basically insulin is,
It's anabolic because it shuttles food stuffs into cells...

 

[milkhouse]

Can someone explain how these supps will help get into ketosis faster? I was under the assumption that you use these when eating carbs.

 

[maldorf]

I never felt much from chromium or R-ALA (which I use for liver and anti-ox) but Vandyl PH from sport pharma was like Dbol for me when I first took it in the early 90's. Insane pumps and fullness.
Just like good ol creatine mono. Thing was it lost it's effects after a while and both had to be cycled to get the feeling again.

Werid, I had that same reaction when I took Vandyl sulfate about that same time, think it was around 1992 or so. Larry Pacifico sold me some from his gym, he had a small store there that sold supplements. I dont remember the brand.

 

[way8lifter]

Can someone explain how these supps will help get into ketosis faster? I was under the assumption that you use these when eating carbs.

the idea is it will drop your blood sugar to the ketosis level ( 70 or so ...guys??) . you can do the same with insulin ..2-4 IU eve3ry 3-4 hours , and ease ytour self into it , saving 2 days or so = more fat burned per week

 

[milkhouse]

the idea is it will drop your blood sugar to the ketosis level ( 70 or so ...guys??) . you can do the same with insulin ..2-4 IU eve3ry 3-4 hours , and ease ytour self into it , saving 2 days or so = more fat burned per week

Thanks. So just take them at each meal?

 

[way8lifter]

yep .. vanadyle sulfate always worked for me ...start low ..you don't want to crash your sugar , just take one tab each meal

 

[milkhouse]

yep .. vanadyle sulfate always worked for me ...start low ..you don't want to crash your sugar , just take one tab each meal

Thank you very much bro. Really appreciated.

 

[way8lifter]

wanted to modufy my answer...it also works for muscle/ weight gain ...when having a carb meal and you add an agent ..you can help shuttle the carbs and protien into the muscle calls ...some believ it is the main reason why soooooo many guys are so much bigger then bb were 20 years ago

 

[milkhouse]

Ah very good my man. Thanks again