How many use T3 bulking

cnock said:

Wondering how many use T3 while bulking in the offseason. Ive read articles saying it has a synergetic effect when on gear as it supposedly helps partition food even better. Wondering if it has any truth and if it would be worth it to use offseason outside of just keeping you leaner.

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AWN2004 said:

Avoid messing with your thyroid at all costs. T3 while trying to put on size? Thats a an oxymoronic principle if you think about it. Im not bashing you by the way because you are asking a question about something you are hoping to get feedback on.

The first mistake most make is using the excuse of having an off-season to make daily trips to a fastfood joint and then they get their bodyfat waaay too high. If you are going to compete then you shouldnt be even thinking about having to use something like T3 in the off season. I know what you are asking about the whole nutrient repartitioning aspect but if you are not eating loads of crap and are training hard then thats going to take care of itself.

One thing I just have to mention is that this isnt rocket science. Guys need to stop looking for the magic bullet so to speak and just fucking train hard. People spend far too much time on the boards and everything else looking for short cuts or trade secrets that just dont exist. If you can think about the times where you were not exposed to the internet or magazines all the time and you just trained your ass off, well for me that is, were some of the best gains I ever got. No magic tricks just eat, train, and then repeat.

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mikeyt869 said:

not at all bro, for many it increases appetite, helps them add mass while staying lean, and helps partition food better as cnock had said. Off season cardio with a little t3 may surprise you

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mikeyt869 said:

lol so you want to call bs on what i said since i dont compete? Pretty pathetic if you ask me, i never said it was the healthiest thing to do but neither is the bbing lifestyle in general. By the way there are competitors that use it offseason, am i going to give you a list of names and when they competed and how they did....no. The thread starter asked a question i replied with what I know.

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AWN2004 said:

Avoid messing with your thyroid at all costs. T3 while trying to put on size? Thats a an oxymoronic principle if you think about it. Im not bashing you by the way because you are asking a question about something you are hoping to get feedback on.

The first mistake most make is using the excuse of having an off-season to make daily trips to a fastfood joint and then they get their bodyfat waaay too high. If you are going to compete then you shouldnt be even thinking about having to use something like T3 in the off season. I know what you are asking about the whole nutrient repartitioning aspect but if you are not eating loads of crap and are training hard then thats going to take care of itself.

One thing I just have to mention is that this isnt rocket science. Guys need to stop looking for the magic bullet so to speak and just fucking train hard. People spend far too much time on the boards and everything else looking for short cuts or trade secrets that just dont exist. If you can think about the times where you were not exposed to the internet or magazines all the time and you just trained your ass off, well for me that is, were some of the best gains I ever got. No magic tricks just eat, train, and then repeat.

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hugga39 said:

never heard of that.... T3 usually eats muscle!!

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AWN2004 said:

Avoid messing with your thyroid at all costs. T3 while trying to put on size? Thats a an oxymoronic principle if you think about it. Im not bashing you by the way because you are asking a question about something you are hoping to get feedback on.

The first mistake most make is using the excuse of having an off-season to make daily trips to a fastfood joint and then they get their bodyfat waaay too high. If you are going to compete then you shouldnt be even thinking about having to use something like T3 in the off season. I know what you are asking about the whole nutrient repartitioning aspect but if you are not eating loads of crap and are training hard then thats going to take care of itself.

One thing I just have to mention is that this isnt rocket science. Guys need to stop looking for the magic bullet so to speak and just fucking train hard. People spend far too much time on the boards and everything else looking for short cuts or trade secrets that just dont exist. If you can think about the times where you were not exposed to the internet or magazines all the time and you just trained your ass off, well for me that is, were some of the best gains I ever got. No magic tricks just eat, train, and then repeat.

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KillerStack said:

So you contest the claim that many good bodybuilders have used thyroid hormones in the off-season with what they think is great results? Thyroid hormones have been used for many decades by some legendary bodybuilders, both on and off season.

"No magic tricks just eat, train, and then repeat."

So you are you against steroid use too? Because it reads like that to me.

It's one thing to say it doesn't work that well in your opinion or experience, or say it's "unnecessary" like Shelby says, and another thing to say this idea is an "oxymoron" like you say. Thyroid hormones can increase protein synthesis. It's not necessary but then again GH isn't necessary, insulin isn't necessary, and steroids aren't necessary either.

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AWN2004 said:

Here is the point I'm trying to make...if there is a point to all of this. For one I need to keep in mind that not everyone on this board competes. For me personaly, my goals revolve around those of bettering myself everytime I step on stage. Some things seem very backwards to me in terms of use when there is really no need. When I say the theory is "oxymoronic" it's not a shot at anyone or me shouting at the top of my lungs that there is no way in hell that can't be true, but just the way I look at things. If you are using "XYZ" in the off-season and eating well, do you really need that? If you boost your thyroid output, or the increase the coversion of your thyroid hormones, yes you are going to get an increase in nutrient uptake and protein synthesis. So when it comes to time to diet, what does that mean? Do you stop the use of T3? I'd venture to say that you would have to up the dose or at least continue the use of it. I'd hate to be shackled to use of a thyroid drug almost year round. Thats my thought process behind this. If youre not competing, whats the point? Now I know many will say how backward that way of thinking is. I know guys who are not competing who just want to add muscle and look good that are using AAS and thats their own decision and I'm the last one to judge that choice. From my own personal experience on stage and off and being around this industry for many years, I just don't see the need for such use. All of this is risky and I'm fully aware of that, regardless of whatever it is you take. Sometimes I get the impression, and call me crazy for thinking this way, but waaaaay too many guys do things without sticking to a plan for a long period of time and respecting the process. I used to go into detail why I don't agree with a certain theory or practice and now I just state what I believe and it comes off harsh at times. It's just my opinion. Nobody is wrong and nobody is right but for me I wouldn't do it.

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