Tenny ....you know I totally repect your every post [same with Johnny smiles] .....I am curious as to why you think altering your hormonal for long periods of time is the best way to do it ......have you used short well planned cycles with a goal in mind for say a yr ? I think guys staying on gear for longer periods of time is a mistake .......and is harder on your body over the long run ...think about it ,lets say you run 800mgs of test and 400 mgs of deca or eq for 3-6 months straight ......don't you think after the first month or so you got most of your gains from that cycle ? Then you just get harder so to speak .........and is that hardness true muscle or is your body trying to keep up with those high test levels for months a time .[ isn't cortisol raising , as is estrogen , and those tend to increase bp and fuild retention ....rt? And to do that for months straight for vary little more true muscle is better than yo yoing in your eyes ? In my view that is a mistake and is not duplicating how our bodies our set up to grow . Even as children , we are set up to grow in spurts . Growth doesn't occur gradually ......it happens fast ......drugs are ment to be tools to create unnatural growth and then get out before the body has too much time react negativately ........I have seen blood work over the last 15 yrs from guys I 've helped .......and clearly in every case the guys that use shorter planned course do less damage ......they don't shut down their own natural test very long at all .[ usually just a couple of weeks ] these guys tend to not hold the huge ammounts of water that long cycle guys hold over time on long cycles from what I've seen .[ and I am not just talking from gh or test .......but I think it is from the stress of long cycles] Remember , our bodies are not only build to grow in spurts ,but are set up to handle short bouts of extreme stress , but start to break down quick if that stress is endured for too long .[that's why a guy like Dante found ,you can really hammer it hard for around 3-6 weeks .....before the strength gains stop or begin to go backward ........same with hormones imo ]
I am not trying to aurgue ,just demonstrate some logic that worked for me very well when I was chasing a massive physique and has worked for many yrs after with guys that I have helped over the last 15yrs.......I am not some guru or trainer or a somebody in bbing .....but I enjoy the fact that no one really knows what they are doing in this endevor .......and all anyone is doing is making educated guesses or are going on instincts ........I had friends that worked with Kerr , Jakot, and severals top anabolic docs during the 70s and 80s . I was told they felt that cycles of 3 on 2 off were the most effective and safest .......but that bbing had obsessive personality types , and most refused to come off ........most cycles grew longer out of the addiction and the show schedules than out of performance enhancement . [as the sport grew ] Not what they recomended .[also remember Jakot and the several other top so cal drs at the time were gay .......they were taking favors , and enjoying giving physicals to all the top guys of the day as well as the 100s of wanna bees chasing the dream ] The East Germans and Russians also liked shorter cycles .......but coaches and obsesssive athletes pushed things longer and further .......with the athletes paying the price.......I once read a doccument that discussed the hundreds of athletes that had all sorts of problems due to pushing their proticals for extended periods .........
I get the whole wanting the body to stablize hormonally aurguement . But that is just not how we are build to work and if you stablize your body for months at a certain level[sides start to pile up like you said whether you feel them or not ] you are really going to go backward if you go off for a long period of time .......you can't stay on that gram of test and 600mg s of eq forever .......my take take, is blast [and I am not taking high doses ,but smart doses and eventually progressively moving up or adding new compunds or hormones to the mix]and curise is the way to go......if you are younger you go off totally and if an older guy you stay on hrt between your cycles ..........from what I have seen it is a healthier , more logical , and just as effective way to go .......that's just my take .....not that I know shit ......lol.....hope you fellas are well....