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4iu of gh a waste on cruise?

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So im in a weird spot, i am 6 weeks into a blast and i suspect my gear is severely underdosed (non board sponsor), and i think my cortisol levels are through the roof because i have been training my ass off, eating more than i ever have before (300-350g protein a day) running the highest dosed cycle ive ever ran (750mg of test/deca/EQ each) and gains are incredibly slow and strength yo-yos from one workout to the next. Ive actually gotten 1-2 reps weaker on heavy sets.

I also just started gh for the first time about 10 days ago.

So i guess i have 2 choices- drop to a cruise and lower my cortisol for a couple months using Ashowagandha, 11-oxo and humanofort... or buy some legit gear and keep blasting.

But i really would rather not stop the gh. Now i dont expect to make muscle gains on 4iu and a cruise dose of test/mast, but will 4iu split up help more with shredding down or am i just wasting it and compromising insulin sensitivity prior to my next cycle?

I want to be able to blast in a couple months and raise my gh dosage to 6-8iu a day and really take off.
 

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agreed. 4 ius is a perfect cruise dose. I would add in slin personally, especially on a cruise. Easy way to stay full without anabolics.

You can easily up the gh dose to 7 - 10 later.

It’s not a waste! 4iu is a great all around dose imo
 

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4ui hgh is good all of time !
 

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I agree 100% with everyone 4 iu of hgh is definitely not a waste! I did the North Americans this year and came home and cruised on 1cc of test, 4iu of gh, and alittle slin on my weak body part days and I was super impressed with the look, training, and recovery I was able to maintain on a cruise. Good gh is a game changer IMO!!!
 

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I agree 100% with everyone 4 iu of hgh is definitely not a waste! I did the North Americans this year and came home and cruised on 1cc of test, 4iu of gh, and alittle slin on my weak body part days and I was super impressed with the look, training, and recovery I was able to maintain on a cruise. Good gh is a game changer IMO!!!

Was the GH pharma grade?
 

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You are asking if 4IU HGH is a waste before you add in ashwagandha , 11-oxo and humanofort. I am just playing and I am not stating any of them are no good because they all can be useful. Surely you should get your cortisol tested throughout the day before deeming you definitely have very high cortisol. Maybe you gear is fake but sometimes going up in dose can do weird things to your body. But sure get on some real test and cruise with your 4iu hgh. You can still grow and maintain decent condition and prime your body for when you start new gear and hopefully blow up as a result. HGH is great on a cruise as it enables you to maintain much more efficiently.
 

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Is a 350-400 IGF level EVER a waste?
 

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I feel like your cycle is no good but that’s my opinion. I don’t think running deca and eq together is good. That’s a high dose of deca and medium/high eq. How’s your estrogen on that? I feel like I’d be super sluggish if I ran what your running. Drop one of the compounds. Then see what happens.
 

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So im in a weird spot, i am 6 weeks into a blast and i suspect my gear is severely underdosed (non board sponsor), and i think my cortisol levels are through the roof because i have been training my ass off, eating more than i ever have before (300-350g protein a day) running the highest dosed cycle ive ever ran (750mg of test/deca/EQ each) and gains are incredibly slow and strength yo-yos from one workout to the next. Ive actually gotten 1-2 reps weaker on heavy sets.

I also just started gh for the first time about 10 days ago.

So i guess i have 2 choices- drop to a cruise and lower my cortisol for a couple months using Ashowagandha, 11-oxo and humanofort... or buy some legit gear and keep blasting.

But i really would rather not stop the gh. Now i dont expect to make muscle gains on 4iu and a cruise dose of test/mast, but will 4iu split up help more with shredding down or am i just wasting it and compromising insulin sensitivity prior to my next cycle?

I want to be able to blast in a couple months and raise my gh dosage to 6-8iu a day and really take off.
So what has the weight gain been during this 6 weeks? Did you take any progress pics during this cycle (a valuable tool IMO)?
 

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I feel like your cycle is no good but that’s my opinion. I don’t think running deca and eq together is good. That’s a high dose of deca and medium/high eq. How’s your estrogen on that? I feel like I’d be super sluggish if I ran what your running. Drop one of the compounds. Then see what happens.

I literally know dozens of dudes who have run this cycle with 0 concerns.
Why would Deca and Eq NOT work?
 

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I didn’t say it wouldn’t work. I said I wouldn’t run it myself. I just don’t take a lot of stuff so my opinion is just that.
they are really similar drugs I would just pick one or the other. I don’t see a benefit to run both at once.
 

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I didn’t say it wouldn’t work. I said I wouldn’t run it myself. I just don’t take a lot of stuff so my opinion is just that.
they are really similar drugs I would just pick one or the other. I don’t see a benefit to run both at once.
How would classify them as similar drugs? I don't believe I've ever heard anyone state the effects they experienced between the two were similar. Most seem to report that deca adds a lot more bodyweight (muscle and water), sexual sides are hit/miss, a fair amount of strength and good joint feels.

And opinions on EQ are all over the place. Some feel it's a plain waste while others love the slow, steady and lean gains, vascularity and cardio boost. Many feel it acts as an AI as well. I won't debate that since there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer besides individual response.
 

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Oh hell, everyone's different, I like adding a small amount of tren to a test deca cycle, supposed to be a bad idea, well, it works great for me. 50mg if pellet tren m/w/f and it's a completely different look and a lot more strength.
 

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Ya I guess it’s just individual. I can’t handle a lot of anything anymore. The older I get things hit me super hard. I’ve never gona over 600mg of deca and when I was on 600 I felt it was to much. I just can’t gas it like that. I’m 5’6 240 and I’m 300mg of deca right now and I’m about to throw it out the window. My weight shoots up so easily. I eat 6 ounce portions under 200grams of carbs a day and my weight still goes up. 2 iu’s of gh with 3o units of long acting slin. Is still a lot to me.
 

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If you are feeling run down then lower to a cruise and do what ever with the GH. All in all if your head is not in it then you definitely won't make gains with good or bad gear. Lower your dose and re-evaluate and then hit it hard when the ducks are in order.
 

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