Anyone deal/see something like this before? No libido no matter the test dose/est etc

[Rogue]

Just to confirm are you saying CJC/MK etc can impact things in a negative or positive ways sexually?

Thank you

Im saying the secretagogues, can ADVERSELY affect your sexual health.
This not being related to yo circulating T:E ratios.
However this would usually NOT be a factor in your situation because it has been a while since you used them last.
Anecdotally the ZERO response ED from CJC wears off 3-4 weeks after cessation of use.

 

[graybass]

Remember most normal GP's know jack shit about this. You know a 100 times more.
I'm way older than you, had this problem a number of times. Try this:

Stop EVERYTHING for awhile, like 8 weeks. Do not take all this bro science crap.
Then take just 250mg test C EW.
4 weeks you should start to feel normal.
Plain simple Kiss method (keep it simple stupid)

This! Clear the machine!

 

[someday]

Any updates? Curious how your high dosing of HCG initially is working.

 

[Strongman37]

What was free test at?

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[24than]

https://www.reliablerxpharmacy.com/zyhcg-5000-iu-injection.html

Did you really mean this site

 

[chopsuey]

Well just a little update, to be honest I kind of fucked up and my body builder addicticted me ran a bunch of experiments for size instead of fixing this issue but getting tired of this BS so I decided I'm going to take this year and really fix things, even if that means I can't have a gf etc for the year.

I went off everything for 5 weeks after deciding this and I was running test base before so thats a good 5 weeks cleaned out.

Felt like a sack of shit but not as bad as I thought.

I've been back on trt dose now for about 2 weeks, running

Test E 200mg week
HCG 2000IU a week
5mg Cialis daily
NO AI

Going to run this for 2 months to let everything stabilize and get boodwork. I tested my adrenal hormones again and all of them are low, DHEA below reference range, progesterone undetectable etc. So I'm hoping the HCG "backfills" the pathways, I'll retest everything in two months and see whats going on.

After that if still not working I'm thinking of trying a low dose MENT, lots of people contacted me via PM saying in similar situation and that helped a lot, maybe with a low dose nolva/ralox.

Have to say so far I'm getting a bit of a libido boost from this protocol with HCG but it's only been two weeks so who knows, will see. Erection quality still sucks. Talked with a urologist and thinks I might have a weakened pelvic floor, going to try kegels.

Also side note I'm using everything HG and brand name(pregnyl etc) so there's less variables.

Anyways I'll keep updating this thread as I received lots of PM's from people in the same boast, hopefully can figure this shit out and help others at the same time.

 

[Biggerp73]

Dude your sex organ is turned off. Turn it back on. HCG 200-500 2.-3 times per week. Maybe 1500-2500 for a couple days to jump start. Trust me, it makes a huge difference.

 

[chopsuey]

Dude your sex organ is turned off. Turn it back on. HCG 200-500 2.-3 times per week. Maybe 1500-2500 for a couple days to jump start. Trust me, it makes a huge difference.

That's what I'm doing right now Just started the hcg a little under two week ago.

 

[graybass]

Yes reboot your body! Then the HCG should do wonders for you with the Cialis and test.

 

[Vision]

I am not a doctor therefore I am not giving you any medical advice and I'm simply just giving you suggestions as an alternative..

I have also experienced the same exact problems that you have literally the same exact.. some event was induced and more pronounced because of certain compounds or even lack of. The end result I seem to be desensitized at Nero receptor sites, not exactly down-regulated but what a specialist told me was more less clouded..

I've tried every protocol you can think of but the one that works the best for me when I get a reoccurring issue which is far and few in between, I've never had a problem prior, but the issue did linger awhile regardless of healthy textbook blood work, it eventually went away when I did a very unorthodox protocol..

Buspar at 15mg x 2 a day.. Your position will most likely have no issue prescribing you these. I have a stockpile of them believe it or not..

You can also run the combination "melanotan II"..

I was already on trt mast and prov, the moment I added the both of these it was a complete game changer. I would have random boners simply just walking at Walmart and nothing would trigger it and it would not go down at all.. the buspar will allow you the ability to ejaculate, in fact they use at SSRIs, almost for the same purpose like we do with cabergoline and nandrolone.. it's the cabergoline for some antidepressant drugs but believe it or not not a lot of doctors are aware the combination....

BuSpar and melanotan II just may help you out immensely and reprime everything back up

 

[chopsuey]

I am not a doctor therefore I am not giving you any medical advice and I'm simply just giving you suggestions as an alternative..

I have also experienced the same exact problems that you have literally the same exact.. some event was induced and more pronounced because of certain compounds or even lack of. The end result I seem to be desensitized at Nero receptor sites, not exactly down-regulated but what a specialist told me was more less clouded..

I've tried every protocol you can think of but the one that works the best for me when I get a reoccurring issue which is far and few in between, I've never had a problem prior, but the issue did linger awhile regardless of healthy textbook blood work, it eventually went away when I did a very unorthodox protocol..

Buspar at 15mg x 2 a day.. Your position will most likely have no issue prescribing you these. I have a stockpile of them believe it or not..

You can also run the combination "melanotan II"..

I was already on trt mast and prov, the moment I added the both of these it was a complete game changer. I would have random boners simply just walking at Walmart and nothing would trigger it and it would not go down at all.. the buspar will allow you the ability to ejaculate, in fact they use at SSRIs, almost for the same purpose like we do with cabergoline and nandrolone.. it's the cabergoline for some antidepressant drugs but believe it or not not a lot of doctors are aware the combination....

BuSpar and melanotan II just may help you out immensely and reprime everything back up

Interesting, thank you for the feedback. Yes my doctor can prescribe me anything I want so not an issue to get it.

Do you take that everyday on going or took it a while to reset yourself?

Also just to confirm your issues was libido and erections and the buspar fixed both?

Thank you

 

[Vision]

Interesting, thank you for the feedback. Yes my doctor can prescribe me anything I want so not an issue to get it.

Do you take that everyday on going or took it a while to reset yourself?

Also just to confirm your issues was libido and erections and the buspar fixed both?

Thank you

what happened was I wasn't able to ejaculate because of the antidepressants which is a common side, I did my research and I found buspar,I mentioned it to my doctor and he said it's an absolute fantastic idea and they actually do prescribe these side by side with people that have issues.. he said it was a good suggestion and he's all for it.. it actually helped me with being able to ejaculate while on antidepressants..

After I discontinue the antidepressants I lived in normal mundane life for many years using gear, and like you I became desensitized, loss of sex drive, I will have no issue getting a hard-on but it would not be sustained..

I've course went back on cycle because I was blasting and cruising.. I Incorporated MT2, and I forgot how it has amazing properties with random erections and believe it or not a increase in your libido.. with that said I threw in the buspar at a low to moderate dose.. it won't hurt anything because it's almost like a mild antidepressant itself, it helps clear the and D2 and D3 receptors..

I eventually had to discontinue the tanning agent because I was turning into a Guatemalan.. but I stayed at a very low maintenance dose.. and I still occasionally took the buspar in..

I'm off of both of those completely, obviously.. but I'm going back on the mt2 then a few weeks..

But I can tell you right now I have absolutely no issues whatsoever, it's almost like it was a tune-up or an oil change, a polishing and cleaning of the neuro receptors.. I'll throw in some Cialis occasionally just for fun too..

You owe it to yourself to at least try this and I highly suggest also using the mt2,but you can use it at a low to moderate dose so you are only using it for the libido enhancement properties..I suggest taking that Sub-Q at night time just in case you get any nausea you'll sleep right through it..

and the buspar also has the other properties of helping you think a little bit more clear..

Of everything you tried you owe it to yourself to try these because they're not any more dangerous and they don't have any real concerns with side effects..

I can guarantee your doctor will give you buspar.. tell him you want to try 15 x 2..that is a pretty low dose and take it from there and you can gradually increase it if need be.. don't be afraid to throw some Cialis in there because even that can assist for placebo factors.. but definitely get the mt2!

 

[chopsuey]

what happened was I wasn't able to ejaculate because of the antidepressants which is a common side, I did my research and I found buspar,I mentioned it to my doctor and he said it's an absolute fantastic idea and they actually do prescribe these side by side with people that have issues.. he said it was a good suggestion and he's all for it.. it actually helped me with being able to ejaculate while on antidepressants..

After I discontinue the antidepressants I lived in normal mundane life for many years using gear, and like you I became desensitized, loss of sex drive, I will have no issue getting a hard-on but it would not be sustained..

I've course went back on cycle because I was blasting and cruising.. I Incorporated MT2, and I forgot how it has amazing properties with random erections and believe it or not a increase in your libido.. with that said I threw in the buspar at a low to moderate dose.. it won't hurt anything because it's almost like a mild antidepressant itself, it helps clear the and D2 and D3 receptors..

I eventually had to discontinue the tanning agent because I was turning into a Guatemalan.. but I stayed at a very low maintenance dose.. and I still occasionally took the buspar in..

I'm off of both of those completely, obviously.. but I'm going back on the mt2 then a few weeks..

But I can tell you right now I have absolutely no issues whatsoever, it's almost like it was a tune-up or an oil change, a polishing and cleaning of the neuro receptors.. I'll throw in some Cialis occasionally just for fun too..

You owe it to yourself to at least try this and I highly suggest also using the mt2,but you can use it at a low to moderate dose so you are only using it for the libido enhancement properties..I suggest taking that Sub-Q at night time just in case you get any nausea you'll sleep right through it..

and the buspar also has the other properties of helping you think a little bit more clear..

Of everything you tried you owe it to yourself to try these because they're not any more dangerous and they don't have any real concerns with side effects..

I can guarantee your doctor will give you buspar.. tell him you want to try 15 x 2..that is a pretty low dose and take it from there and you can gradually increase it if need be.. don't be afraid to throw some Cialis in there because even that can assist for placebo factors.. but definitely get the mt2!

Thank you, I've long suspected it must be a neuro issue since I've tried so many protocols. Will give this a shot.

 

[Vision]

Thank you, I've long suspected it must be a neuro issue since I've tried so many protocols. Will give this a shot.

The reason why I suggested neuro it's because every other suggestion and this entire topic has always worked for me in the past especially when going into a cruise.. HCG, DHEA, boron, zinc,mast, proviron, cabergoline and so on but it became a point that I was almost unresponsive.. neuro-endocrinology is my passion.. and it's something that is extremely overlooked, often we look at adrenal secretions and other hormones within the endocrine, naturally and that is absolutely normal to do.. but for myself I had to step outside of the box, because I was already suspecting neuro damage with my cognitive thought process due to extensive Trenbolone usage, it was from there on out it just gave momentum for me to consider other things..

When using this cocktail don't be afraid to throw in some DHEA, and HCG like everyone else is suggesting because all of this could almost give a system restart, a refresher.. start with just the two compounds and take it from there..

And I'm being absolute dead serious when I tell you this, refrain for as long as you possibly can from rubbing one out, no matter what you do.. and as silly as it sounds occasionally look at xxx pics, this can act as a placebo, as well as stimulate secretions.. but don't act on it.. you're basically priming yourself..

The buspar it's going to act very complimentary with MT2..

Create a new thread regarding this and run a log and keep everyone updated.. I'm very confident that this is going to help you and I'm actually kind of excited for you man because I had great success..

 

[Fa Seeshus]

This has been mentioned before on the board, but maybe try raloxifene or nolva instead of an AI. This, with the addition of HCG should help.

 

[Nyoco]

If you´re looking at Melanotan 2 for the erection inducing capabilities, check out PT - 141 which was discovered during the Melanotan research and developed from it:

PT - 141 Male and Female Libido Treatments | Hormone Treatment Centers

Treat Male and Female sexual dysfunction issues with the PT 141 peptide. Men experience increased arousal and erection strength while Women report greater arousal and improved climaxes.

www.midwesthormonecenters.com

Never tried it myself but I definitely had massive erections when using MT2, problem is, continued use will make you change racial type if you´re white skinned, the PT 141 avoids this.

 

[Rogue]

Your problem can be neurological.
Aside from ED do you have any other symptoms, albeit very slight?
Co-ordination, balance , slight loss of strength on one side, disruption in processing walking down the aisle??
Sex hormones have a profound effect on the inner ear, If you have any of the symptoms I asked you about
then were involved pretty deep. However, before you reach these stages, the satellite interruption of hormones neurological
will hinder sexual performance in many different ways.
What was your TRT protocols ? What dosages and substances, do you use an AI?
From your answers I can get a better understanding and hopefully determine the cause .

 

[whiteman]

I think test prop works best for me when it comes to sex drive. Also if u take finesteride and or an anti depressant those kill ur sex drive.

 

[chopsuey]

Your problem can be neurological.
Aside from ED do you have any other symptoms, albeit very slight?
Co-ordination, balance , slight loss of strength on one side, disruption in processing walking down the aisle??
Sex hormones have a profound effect on the inner ear, If you have any of the symptoms I asked you about
then were involved pretty deep. However, before you reach these stages, the satellite interruption of hormones neurological
will hinder sexual performance in many different ways.
What was your TRT protocols ? What dosages and substances, do you use an AI?
From your answers I can get a better understanding and hopefully determine the cause .

Major problem is ED and lack of libido/drive

Also have frequent brain fog and fatigue and just don't feel as sharp mentally as I use to, cloudy thinking etc. Not sure how to explain it but everything feels a bit off.

I'm definitely weaker on one side but I had a pretty bad accident and only screws and bolts holding that shoulder together. I don't think I have any balance issues(don't notice anything different walking down an aisle), do have vertigo sometimes.

Regarding protocols I've tried everything lol, been at this for years

10mg a day
100mg a week(split injections)
100-500mg a week, all kinds of experiments
using proviron, using mast etc
using an ai, using no ai, cycling through the different ai's, keeping me estrogen low, letting my estrogen go high doesn't seem to make a difference. And I also kept the levels stable for months at a time running experiments.

Currently I went off for 5 weeks and now for 2 weeks I've been on

200mg test e per week, split two dosage
2000IU hcg per week, split 4 doses
5MG Cialis a day
2IU hgh per day
NO AI

I can tell I'm holding water and a bit tired but don't feel all that bad, just no change in libido and erections.

 

[chopsuey]

The reason why I suggested neuro it's because every other suggestion and this entire topic has always worked for me in the past especially when going into a cruise.. HCG, DHEA, boron, zinc,mast, proviron, cabergoline and so on but it became a point that I was almost unresponsive.. neuro-endocrinology is my passion.. and it's something that is extremely overlooked, often we look at adrenal secretions and other hormones within the endocrine, naturally and that is absolutely normal to do.. but for myself I had to step outside of the box, because I was already suspecting neuro damage with my cognitive thought process due to extensive Trenbolone usage, it was from there on out it just gave momentum for me to consider other things..

When using this cocktail don't be afraid to throw in some DHEA, and HCG like everyone else is suggesting because all of this could almost give a system restart, a refresher.. start with just the two compounds and take it from there..

And I'm being absolute dead serious when I tell you this, refrain for as long as you possibly can from rubbing one out, no matter what you do.. and as silly as it sounds occasionally look at xxx pics, this can act as a placebo, as well as stimulate secretions.. but don't act on it.. you're basically priming yourself..

The buspar it's going to act very complimentary with MT2..

Create a new thread regarding this and run a log and keep everyone updated.. I'm very confident that this is going to help you and I'm actually kind of excited for you man because I had great success..

Thanks again, just spoke to my doc, he said he will prescribe it, I have an appointment at the end of the week to get my script, then I will wait another week or so to take it(will make 4 weeks on new trt protocol so blood levels should be stable for me to add this in)

Currently running no ai and I can tell im holding a bit of water but don't feel any worse so thinking keeping it with no ai, or adding in a bit of tamox or dht compound but should problably just add in one variable at a time.