Are you getting the most out of your Testosterone injections?

[VinnyG]

u kidding me with your 19 post
go READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuckers wana be spoon fed EVERYTHING:banghead:

[lang=id]-hurr durr

-go read

[/lang]

 

[suppdude]

With EOD injections, ya'll doing straight slin pin injections, or still utilizing normal pins?

 

[gulfcoast]

You can't lump Sust in with E and C, it's got 2 short esters out of 4 in the blend. Completely different profile on release times than E and C.

 

[MikeS]

I had a basic knowledge of this, and for the same reason I have always wondered myself why urologists and HRT doctors prescribe cypionate to be injected every 2 weeks?? I would love to know the logic behind that schedule since it doesn't make any sense. I can only imagine a roller coaster going inside the body.

Its because the basic urologist is not as informed as the educated bodybuilder, plain and simple. We are the experts on this subject, not them. Its been that way for a long time now.

 

[MightyJohn]

How about sus and all the articles stating it's a steady release, meaning can be pinned less frequently

 

[Gravel]

With EOD injections, ya'll doing straight slin pin injections, or still utilizing normal pins?

I use 30g every day alternating in my calves.

 

[cnriagu]

Here's some food for thought

THIS X1000!

If you inject the same TOTAL amount of compound more frequently (ed or eod) the likelihood of reaching its concentration max (cmax) is greatly diminished compared to injecting less frequently (1-2 week).

I have to disagree with the OP's statement that testosterone is more effective injecting more frequently. However, there's an argument to be made that doing more injections weekly may lead to less sides...

 

[thebigbus]

I asked the urologist why every 2 weeks, his only answer was "because we wanna reach stable levels of testosterone in the blood" Which still to our knowledge here it doesn't make sense because after 2 weeks the previous shot is pretty much 100% gone. Either they have access to classified information that we don't know, or they are as dysfunctional as practitioners as our whole medical system which is a complete catastrophe.

as a urologist (recently graduated residency), I can say I agree with you guys. I was shocked and awed when I saw my attendings prescribing cyp every 2 or even every THREE weeks.

It is malpractice in my opinion.

In my own clinic during residency I would explain to patients the need for at minimum WEEKLY injections, so would usually start them out on 100mg/week and go from there based on levels and symptoms.

Physicians are woefully ignorant in many areas. They also, as a GROUP, seem to lack a good deal of wisdom/common sense.

I am a black sheep, though But at least I can do the right thing for my patients with regards to TRT. It's fun talking to them about it especially since I am on it myself.

Also the bigger guys will open up to me about their gear use, and we can talk shop a bit, which is fun.

 

[xyz14]

And you dont know how bad is the situation here in Czech Republic/central europe.
IF you get on trt, which is almost non existent here and they dont really consider it unless you have something like testicle cancer..They will inject you 250mg sust E21D for 6 times. Once they do that they will measure your testosterone and if its in range thne they will stop injecting you, since you now have testosterone and you dont need trt. Im not kidding, they have studies here supporting this shit.
I spoke to so-called second best cardiologist in this country and when he heard word testostrone he almsot had heart attack himself. Its the evil here lol. Before even taking your hormonal panel bloodwork he would just prescribe you viagra & antidepressants. He heas my granda on beta blockers,diuretics, statins and some other shit. He didnt even tell him that beta blockers combined with diuretics can lower blood pressure furthermore. What a fucking mess here. Sorry for the rant guys.

 

[nothuman]

as a urologist (recently graduated residency), I can say I agree with you guys. I was shocked and awed when I saw my attendings prescribing cyp every 2 or even every THREE weeks.

It is malpractice in my opinion.

In my own clinic during residency I would explain to patients the need for at minimum WEEKLY injections, so would usually start them out on 100mg/week and go from there based on levels and symptoms.

Physicians are woefully ignorant in many areas. They also, as a GROUP, seem to lack a good deal of wisdom/common sense.

I am a black sheep, though But at least I can do the right thing for my patients with regards to TRT. It's fun talking to them about it especially since I am on it myself.

Also the bigger guys will open up to me about their gear use, and we can talk shop a bit, which is fun.

I wish I could find a doctor like you where I live. My endo scolded me for telling her I split my TRT into two weekly injections so now I have to pretend I take it once a week.

 

[nothuman]

And you dont know how bad is the situation here in Czech Republic/central europe.
IF you get on trt, which is almost non existent here and they dont really consider it unless you have something like testicle cancer..They will inject you 250mg sust E21D for 6 times. Once they do that they will measure your testosterone and if its in range thne they will stop injecting you, since you now have testosterone and you dont need trt. Im not kidding, they have studies here supporting this shit.
I spoke to so-called second best cardiologist in this country and when he heard word testostrone he almsot had heart attack himself. Its the evil here lol. Before even taking your hormonal panel bloodwork he would just prescribe you viagra & antidepressants. He heas my granda on beta blockers,diuretics, statins and some other shit. He didnt even tell him that beta blockers combined with diuretics can lower blood pressure furthermore. What a fucking mess here. Sorry for the rant guys.

I believe the situation is similar in Croatia. I was traveling throughout Europe recently and found a gym there and got in a conversation with a big powerlifting type guy. I don't know how the subject came up but he said he has very low test levels and sees a urologist (or endo, I forget) about it. I ask why he doesn't get a prescription for TRT and he said the urologist never even talked about that with him. It's pretty scary the kind of malpractice going on.

 

[Geardepot]

Theres some great discussion going on in here. I see the points on both sides. I guess one would have to know what the 'threshold' is in order to be able to maximize it, and not go over.

I do know for myself I seem to do much better with longer ester Test on 3-4 day schedule with the injects . I notice after I do a shot, I have hard ons easier, and my mood seems to be overall better, with having some more aggression in the gym. As opposed to doing shots 1x a week where I felt the last 2-3 days before another shot I would get lethargic and seems to have harder time getting erections etc. This is just how I feel, so I tend to go with the more frequent injections as I 'feel' better/more stable on them, but I am no longer competing trying to win Mr Olympia lol, so I am less concerned with maxing out my threshold and getting every ounce of benefit out of every Mg I can.... on the flip side, I totally respect guys who are trying to milk every ounce out of their shots and getting to that 'threshold'. I was def there once myself where even the possibility of getting 1% more effect from my gear would lead me to do some crazy shit!


I apologize for roping the Sust into this, I was simply thinking of it in layman's terms. I know with sust you have the shorter esters, but my thought process with that is when taking shorter ( and longer) esters, your not really going to hurt anything by taking a 500mg dose your doing 1x a week and splitting it to 2 250mg doses every 3-4 days. or taking 1/4 of it and doing it even 2 days. I suppose its personal preference.

 

[LK3]

[lang=id]-hurr durr

-go read

[/lang]

lol
what internet site you get that from???
it is not correct and others have been posted that are correct like the one in the beginning of this thread! lol

:lightbulb:

and ps...
I find it really annoying when ppl post this bro science garbage... please learn to read your sources.

im thinking English is not your first language so not being too much of a dick but care to tell me what pharma company produced tren e???? lol
dear lord

:banghead:

 

[LK3]

And you dont know how bad is the situation here in Czech Republic/central europe.
IF you get on trt, which is almost non existent here and they dont really consider it unless you have something like testicle cancer..They will inject you 250mg sust E21D for 6 times. Once they do that they will measure your testosterone and if its in range thne they will stop injecting you, since you now have testosterone and you dont need trt. Im not kidding, they have studies here supporting this shit.
I spoke to so-called second best cardiologist in this country and when he heard word testostrone he almsot had heart attack himself. Its the evil here lol. Before even taking your hormonal panel bloodwork he would just prescribe you viagra & antidepressants. He heas my granda on beta blockers,diuretics, statins and some other shit. He didnt even tell him that beta blockers combined with diuretics can lower blood pressure furthermore. What a fucking mess here. Sorry for the rant guys.

the top part is what the info on the inside of amp boxes say too...
the rest of the world in this case is far behind the states.

 

[VinnyG]

lol
what internet site you get that from???
it is not correct and others have been posted that are correct like the one in the beginning of this thread! lol

:lightbulb:

and ps...
I find it really annoying when ppl post this bro science garbage... please learn to read your sources.

im thinking English is not your first language so not being too much of a dick but care to tell me what pharma company produced tren e???? lol
dear lord

:banghead:

you're wrong and I'm right

you're dumb enough to believe an excel chart with no sources

you're too lazy to research for yourself

I'll not bother with u little fucker

just ask anyone with a basic pharmacy background when is the peak of an enanthate injection

 

[LK3]

you're wrong and I'm right

you're dumb enough to believe an excel chart with no sources

you're too lazy to research for yourself

I'll not bother with u little fucker

just ask anyone with a basic pharmacy background when is the peak of an enanthate injection

lol
youre totally right dude!
lol
you win!
im write youre wrong is THE best argument EVER! lol

oh my...

umm first... here we are talking bout how drs don't have a clue but magically someone with "basic pharmacy background" aka probably less school then a dr, knows more. yet they go to the same school???

also, please tell me what real pharmacy works with tren E as you posted a graph the clearly shows tren e... what dr prescribes that? and what pharmacy can you buy it in?

if you maybe use the search function you might see that I have posted quite a bit about not just esters but depot mechanics. did I make that stuff up? did I get it from a website that tells me how to use tren e for the perfect get jacked cycle?

you do know that ppl can get banned for calling names, right? especially to sponsors who help lots of ppl out. lol




please keep this guy around for a lil bit. simple for entertainment value!

lol

 

[n3mo0101]

If this is the case, why do some people recommend to inject prop ed?

 

[Stewie]

Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone enanthate and testosterone cyclohexanecarboxylate as assessed by serum and salivary testosterone level... - PubMed - NCBI

 

[LK3]

Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone enanthate and testosterone cyclohexanecarboxylate as assessed by serum and salivary testosterone level... - PubMed - NCBI

lol
as usual I love your posts.

I didn't think I needed to do the google search FOR him though.

 

[hk2009]

Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone enanthate and testosterone cyclohexanecarboxylate as assessed by serum and salivary testosterone level... - PubMed - NCBI

That was done with a 140mg free test, so I'm guessing 200 mg/ml enanthate.
If one was injecting 600 mg enanthate in one shot. Would the numbers still be the same after 9 days?

Best regards.

Hk2009