Calling all synthol vets!

[pirates07]

First some background. Ive been working out for three years now. I have made great gains naturally with every part of my body but my calves. I work them atleast once, sometimes twice per week and they have only grown .5" in 3 years!! Right now they are both right at 15". Ive tried everything: standing, sitting, hacks, leg presses, donkies, ect.. As the rest of my body grows, my calves are quickly becoming more and more lagging.

So, heres the deal. Ive been researching seo's, specifically syntherol, for quite some time now. I have never used ass or done injections of any kind becuase Im still researching the different substances and, most of all, Im waiting until I think my body has reached its full natural potential.

Here are my questions to those of you who have experience with seo's:
How effective are they really?
How much growth can I expect realistically?
How long will it take if I fallow Big A's guide to a T (doing all 6 sites per calf)?
How painful is it to pin the calf muscle compared to other muscles?
How natural does it look?
How long do the results last? Yes, I will continue my normal calf routine.
Has anyone experienced any negative sides?
Most of all, is this something that a total newb to injections should be considering? Basically, is it worth it for someone in my situation?

I know its a lot of questions but Ive searched over and over and Im still not convinced on way or the other. Im interested in hearing the most recent experiences of those who have tried syntherol. Answers to any of the above questions would be greatly appreciated. Any other advice is welcome as well. Thanks a lot!

 

[Big A]

Here are my questions to those of you who have experience with seo's:
How effective are they really?

Really.

How much growth can I expect realistically?

No reason not to get a couple of inches per 30 day course.

How long will it take if I fallow Big A's guide to a T (doing all 6 sites per calf)?

You must follow the 30 days courses followed by the 6 week maintanance routines.

How painful is it to pin the calf muscle compared to other muscles?

Very.

How natural does it look?

100% if you follow my guide

How long do the results last? Yes, I will continue my normal calf routine.

Permanent if you follow my guide.

Has anyone experienced any negative sides?

You will get swelling during the 30 days and as with any injection, you may hit a nerve.

Most of all, is this something that a total newb to injections should be considering? Basically, is it worth it for someone in my situation?

Tons of naturals use Syntherol.

Do a Search here - lots of naturals and lots of people use Syntherol in their calves and have listed their experiences.

 

[Force245]

plain and simple.... it works... follow Big A's advice and protocol to the "t".

Aside from the thread, have you tried any other methods of exercise to grow calfs, such as extreme slow reps, with a fifteen stretch at the bottom, hard flex and five second negative.... I would exhaust muscle genetics prior to seo's.

 

[pirates07]

two things........

first, Big A, not to kiss ass but, you are the man!

second, how important is it that my calves reach full natural potenetial before I start? I mean, can I still make the same progress after a cycle of the seo? or will it slow future gains?

Ok I lied, one more question. How important is it that I be on ass to achieve the full benefits of the synthol? Remember, Im still natty.

 

[VanDyke]

it works ,bro..give it a try and you wont be dissapointed..do not abuse it just follow Big A's protocol to a T.

good luck.

 

[wrkinfor225]

dude I can't tell you how important ASS is !!!

 

[pirates07]

dude I can't tell you how important ASS is !!!

I know its important to those that use it but iI dont. Not yet atleast. So is the seo worth it without the ass?

 

[pirates07]

it works ,bro..give it a try and you wont be dissapointed..do not abuse it just follow Big A's protocol to a T.

good luck.

If I do it Im going to do it right. But Im still not sure if the benefits outweigh the costs you know? Ive never injected anything EVER and Im not cool with having lumpy calves.

Have you used it before?

 

[maldorf]

I would say that if you have never injected before and you are going to embark on this using your calves, that you are going to have a rough time. Calves are notoriously painful place to inject.
You meniton you train your calves once or maybe 2x per week. I would change how you train before going this route, given your experience with injections. I personally train calves 4x per week, and they are one of my best parts.

 

[Big A]

or will it slow future gains?

Quite the opposite.

Ok I lied, one more question. How important is it that I be on ass to achieve the full benefits of the synthol? Remember, Im still natty.

The point of Syntherol is to make the muscle grow easier. After Syntherol use, the muscle will grow MUCH easier. How much it will grow depends on how good your anabolic environment is - train, eat, sleep, supps, and gear will give so much more results, obviously.

 

[vlad878]

Quite the opposite.

The point of Syntherol is to make the muscle grow easier. After Syntherol use, the muscle will grow MUCH easier. How much it will grow depends on how good your anabolic environment is - train, eat, sleep, supps, and gear will give so much more results, obviously.

if a natural lifter uses syntherol do u think he can gain 2-3 inches on his arms and keep them ?

or is it only effective for people on A.S.S.?

 

[Big A]

if a natural lifter uses syntherol do u think he can gain 2-3 inches on his arms and keep them ?

or is it only effective for people on A.S.S.?

The amount of size kept is individual. But a person on AAS has more chance to keep a higher amount of the gains than a natural person.

See this natural syntherol log:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33499

 

[vlad878]

The amount of size kept is individual. But a person on AAS has more chance to keep a higher amount of the gains than a natural person.

See this natural syntherol log:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33499

thanx for the info bro

looks like imma wait a few years before i try syntherol i wanna reach my natural potential first

 

[pirates07]

Thanks Big A and everyone else! I read that thread and all the others I found using the search function.

I would say that if you have never injected before and you are going to embark on this using your calves, that you are going to have a rough time. Calves are notoriously painful place to inject.
You meniton you train your calves once or maybe 2x per week. I would change how you train before going this route, given your experience with injections. I personally train calves 4x per week, and they are one of my best parts.

I plan on stepping up my training whether I do this or not. Im just looking for a jump start to get me through the warm months. Im tired of people telling me that Im not proportioned.

So what would you compare the pain to? How many times worse is it than a regular flu shot in the arm?

Also, which is more painful, the actual injection or the soreness fallowing?

 

[saudades]

So what would you compare the pain to? How many times worse is it than a regular flu shot in the arm?

Oh, you have no idea!

Also, which is more painful, the actual injection or the soreness fallowing?

Both!

In all seriousness, what exactly do you do for your calves? I think you may not be training them correctly if everything else is growing and your calves aren't. Many people will go use 100-200 lbs doing calf raises and think they are working their calves when they could actually be using 500-600 lbs. Calves are very strong muscles made of the slow-twitch red muscle fibers. They respond only to very heavy training. You have to blast them with heavy weight.

Arnold told of a time he trained with Reg Park when they did calves. Arnold put on 200 lbs and did reps, then Reg stepped over to the machine, ran it to 1000 lbs and cranked out reps. That's when he knew he wasn't training his calves correctly.

 

[pirates07]

Thats not what I was hoping to hear. Friends of mine have said that regular pinning, like in glutes and quads, are easy, nothing more than a reg shot. Granted, they arent using synthol.

 

[pirates07]

Big A, what do you think would be more beneficial/generate more growth. Some test e and a rigorous training schedule or a synthol cycle? The last post about the pain has me thinking about other options. The synthol is he obviously faster from what I gather, right? I know most do the ass before synthol but how important is that?

 

[Big A]

Thanks Big A and everyone else! I read that thread and all the others I found using the search function.



I plan on stepping up my training whether I do this or not. Im just looking for a jump start to get me through the warm months. Im tired of people telling me that Im not proportioned.

So what would you compare the pain to? How many times worse is it than a regular flu shot in the arm?

Also, which is more painful, the actual injection or the soreness fallowing?

The soreness is that which you get after a hard workout. Problem is, if you have ever done a truly hard workout, you will know that you can't walk on your calves for a few days afterwards due to the pain.

The injections themselves don't hurt.

 

[Big A]

Calves are very strong muscles made of the slow-twitch red muscle fibers. They respond only to very heavy training. You have to blast them with heavy weight.

Truer words have not been spoken.

 

[Big A]

Thats not what I was hoping to hear. Friends of mine have said that regular pinning, like in glutes and quads, are easy, nothing more than a reg shot. Granted, they arent using synthol.

I found quads hurt more than anything, including calves. Syntherol doesn't hurt when you inject it. It's just you constatly feel stretching pain afterwards.

Look, everything is individual. Some people feel nothing when they inject claves. Others are in agony. Either way though, the Syntherol injections become painless after about 5 days.