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Weighing 170lbs with abs, using gear does is not a super convincing GH success story imo
Weighing 170lbs with abs, using gear does is not a super convincing GH success story imo
Someone didn’t read what I wrote lol
You just picked out what you wanted?
You miss the part where within 6 months of my sobriety I was 190lbs+ sub 10%?
Yea not huge.. but I don’t want to be.. I’m 5’8 and a cunt hair.. So not a good look (in my opinion) to be too big and definitely not athletic (what I’m trying to be)
Congratulations on your sobriety, I know it can be quite the struggle - though it's not really relevant to the topic at hand
You don't have to be anything you don't want to be, but "under 10% and not huge" still isn't a glowing endorsement for dropping $$$ on GH, regardless of why you don't want to be "too big"
like another guy said up above, if I could only choose one other compound than test, it would be HGH.
From the moment I tried the grey tops for the first time a couple years ago I knew it was doing its job. I looked so much better, felt better, stayed lean. I was kind of blown away honestly. I knew that when I tested my igf that it would be very high, I could just feel it.
I will say that everyones response to hgh will vary quite a bit. Some people will get little to no results from it and some people will do very will. There are many many factors that dictate this. I think theres more variance in how hgh effects people than there is with anabolic steroids.
Hands down my favorite thing about hgh is before I first tried it, I used to run a shit load of gear. When I saw how well it worked for me, I was able to drop the doses to next to nothing.
Training while on trt/hgh feels like im on cycle compared to training while on trt alone.
After spending a 6-8 months using the grey tops I decided to invest into pharma hgh to see the difference. I've used Serostim, Saizen, Geno's, humatrope, norditropin.
Yes, I feel like I held a little less subcutaneous water than the grey tops, but overall hardly anything to write home about in terms of differences. My igf1 came back almost the same on 3ius of grey tops as it did on 3ius of Saizen. Was it worth the thousands upon thousands of extra dollars I spent to obtain the pharma grade. Fuck NO.
While i'm on trt and just cruising I like to run 3ius a day to give myself a break. When i'm on cycle I go up to 6ius tops because I simply do not feel any added benefit when I go over that.
These days, since the prices are a little better I think its definitely worth it especially when ran in conjunction with a solid AAS cycle.
like another guy said up above, if I could only choose one other compound than test, it would be HGH.
From the moment I tried the grey tops for the first time a couple years ago I knew it was doing its job. I looked so much better, felt better, stayed lean. I was kind of blown away honestly. I knew that when I tested my igf that it would be very high, I could just feel it.
I will say that everyones response to hgh will vary quite a bit. Some people will get little to no results from it and some people will do very will. There are many many factors that dictate this. I think theres more variance in how hgh effects people than there is with anabolic steroids.
Hands down my favorite thing about hgh is before I first tried it, I used to run a shit load of gear. When I saw how well it worked for me, I was able to drop the doses to next to nothing.
Training while on trt/hgh feels like im on cycle compared to training while on trt alone.
After spending a 6-8 months using the grey tops I decided to invest into pharma hgh to see the difference. I've used Serostim, Saizen, Geno's, humatrope, norditropin.
Yes, I feel like I held a little less subcutaneous water than the grey tops, but overall hardly anything to write home about in terms of differences. My igf1 came back almost the same on 3ius of grey tops as it did on 3ius of Saizen. Was it worth the thousands upon thousands of extra dollars I spent to obtain the pharma grade. Fuck NO.
While i'm on trt and just cruising I like to run 3ius a day to give myself a break. When i'm on cycle I go up to 6ius tops because I simply do not feel any added benefit when I go over that.
like another guy said up above, if I could only choose one other compound than test, it would be HGH.
From the moment I tried the grey tops for the first time a couple years ago I knew it was doing its job. I looked so much better, felt better, stayed lean. I was kind of blown away honestly. I knew that when I tested my igf that it would be very high, I could just feel it.
I will say that everyones response to hgh will vary quite a bit. Some people will get little to no results from it and some people will do very will. There are many many factors that dictate this. I think theres more variance in how hgh effects people than there is with anabolic steroids.
Hands down my favorite thing about hgh is before I first tried it, I used to run a shit load of gear. When I saw how well it worked for me, I was able to drop the doses to next to nothing.
Training while on trt/hgh feels like im on cycle compared to training while on trt alone.
After spending a 6-8 months using the grey tops I decided to invest into pharma hgh to see the difference. I've used Serostim, Saizen, Geno's, humatrope, norditropin.
Yes, I feel like I held a little less subcutaneous water than the grey tops, but overall hardly anything to write home about in terms of differences. My igf1 came back almost the same on 3ius of grey tops as it did on 3ius of Saizen. Was it worth the thousands upon thousands of extra dollars I spent to obtain the pharma grade. Fuck NO.
While i'm on trt and just cruising I like to run 3ius a day to give myself a break. When i'm on cycle I go up to 6ius tops because I simply do not feel any added benefit when I go over that.
Does anyone here run GH without AAS longterm?
Response to GH has so much inter-individuality based upon enzymes, receptors, and your body's preference to endogenous vs exogenous forms (20 vs 22kd) (just like many drugs) that guys often times feel like one side (the one they sit on) is more right than the other.
Scott Stevenson has a brilliant video on this that I really think should be stickied, and shared across all social media platforms.
If you respond well to it, it can be a great addition. For others it might not serve the same value, and maybe peptides might be a better alternative depending on your endogenous pulses.
If I could only pic one other compound other than Test it would by far be GH. I got a full body transformation from it and have been on low doses for over 6yrs(1.5-3iu). I don’t store bodyfat nearly as easy and I always look more full regardless off training. For me it was a game changer but it’s real effects didn’t start to shine until around 1.5-2yrs of using it.
That said, half the people in here are using UGL GH from China raws and they have no idea if it's good or not, so unless you got a script for real, pharm grade GH, I can't put much stock into people who use UGL GH, period.
Broscience at it's finest right here
Your post had merit until you added this comment to it...Try heading into the testing room and look at REAL life lab results for pharma and Chinese generic GH and you tell me that your broscience pharma versus ugl theory still holds true!
Love the pharma versus ugl nonsense still going on...Considering both GH testing here and AAS testing on anasci have dispelled those myths with ugl testing out better then pharma on occasion for both!
What about gh being made in a licensed, government approved GMP pharma facility? That same gh is used and prescribed by legitimate Chinese hospitals. Via a company sales rep, unmarked gh vials make their way to black market for resale under several names. The Chinese pharma's identity has to be kept low key and protected or they end up with governmental investigations and legal issues like Gensci did when it was flooding black market with jins.Sorry, brother, but, you know how I feel about 3rd party testing facilities. I trust the pharmacy and, even then, I still have all my friend test everything I get prescribed to me that comes from a pharmacy to verify what I'm potentially going to place into my body.
Unless I'm standing, watching my chemist friend who's a university professor test stuff for me at the University, I will never trust a 3rd party source.
I'm not saying ANASCI is faking test results, I just have seen too many business deals in my life where kickback's are abundant in order to make something appear legit to make profit.
The fact is that China manufacturing companies are NOT regulated. That's enough for me not to take a chance on UG stuff.