DIPPING AND AAS

[wtw11171]

What affect does chewing tobacco have on using AAS? Another words if you are a dipper and you are about to start a cycle, should you fast or abstain from tobacco use during the cycle?

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

lol i tried to stop..... everyone around me hated me.

 

[wtw11171]

I just want to get the most out of the work I put into. I did not want to do the research so I thought there would be no better place to ask. I'm a mean bastard now. I can only imagine what I would be like giving it up for two months, or even permanently.

 

[MilitaryMuscle]

i dont know i havent read any studies saying tobacco reduces protein synthesis. I know its not good for you and its a real shitty habit i picked up but i dont think its going to make a difference if your on a cycle or not. other than the fact that tobacco products are bad for your health

 

[Ashop]

i dont know i havent read any studies saying tobacco reduces protein synthesis. I know its not good for you and its a real shitty habit i picked up but i dont think its going to make a difference if your on a cycle or not. other than the fact that tobacco products are bad for your health

In a nut shell,,,well said. some like nicotine for the stimulant effect,, but we all know how awful tobacco is for you.

 

[wtw11171]

Good enough. I won't give it anymore thought.

 

[Jarconis]

if you've been dipping for a very long time... id stay away from the igf...

 

[VanR__]

Quit if you can. I dipped kodiak for well over a decade. It was hard as hell to quit, and I still miss it, but it was wrecking total havoc with my teeth, gums, tongue, breath, and blood pressure.

 

[Chuckblonde]

im on my second time quitting, i dont really get strong cravings its just like i want something in my lip

 

[thebrick]

Quit if you can. I dipped kodiak for well over a decade. It was hard as hell to quit, and I still miss it, but it was wrecking total havoc with my teeth, gums, tongue, breath, and blood pressure.

exactly.... I would be worried about gum disease or oral cancer.

 

[Massive G]

I did kodiak and skoal occasionally about 15 years ago sporadically for a few years.

I say this because I may have done it a couple of times a week for a few weeks then stopped for a few months etc, lucky I didn't have addictive potential for it or anything else.

later on I was using nicotene gum as an ergogen-for the fat burning effect appetitie suppressing effect etc.

But didn't like the way it made me feel-seemed to stress me out worse than ephderine or clen and BP went up.

 

[Ness]

Nicotine in some studies has lowered estrogen levels for a period of time, it also serves as a laxative and its known as a its stimulant...those are the good things...but they dont outweigh the bad. Id see a point for chewing during pct

 

[oswlsj]

ditto!

im on my second time quitting, i dont really get strong cravings its just like i want something in my lip

the oral fixation is a big habit to kick! i have chewed for 16 years now... and the gum disease or cancer is the biggest problem!! i had a friend of mine who lost part of his jaw due to cancer!! just like smoking, some people will get cancer after only smoking for 10 years and some because of genetics will never get cancer. it is definately a appetite suppressant.

 

[JUICEDUP3]

just stop the shit! its nasy, girls hate it, bad for ur teeth.. i done it for 4 yrs and just stopped one day. its easy bro, you'll save alot of money for protein as well..

 

[Turbomaster]

take my advise , quit cold turkey , go to whyquit.com for guidance and reinforcement .I dipped for 15 years , got into bodybuilding .....and decided a nice physique is worthless if you have face cancer

 

[speedbacker]

Why is that?

I'm guessing because of the increased risk of oral cancer with dipping and the possibility of igf stimulating the growth of cancerous cells.

 

[StoryOfTheYear]

In my opinion, it just seems very counter-productive considering the goal for most people who work out and eat right is to be "healthy". -StOry

 

[Kcm3000]

i heard somewhere that dipping can make you look more vascular. by pulling water out of sub q fat cells. idk if its true mabye someone else can chime in on that.

 

[wtw11171]

WOW!!! You guys have a lot of good points here. Maybe it is time to cash it in. I have been chewing copenhagen for like 26 years. I just don't want to snap on my kids. I have 4 children two boys 10 and 9 as well as 2 girls 6 and 2. Like I said I do have a mean streak at times. The thing is if I am going to get healthy I might as well chuck it. I might check out that one site and see how it goes. I used the twelve steps to kick other habits. I don't want to get into my whole story here. I suppose since it has been on my mind I better start the discipline. Thanks bros.

 

[Turbomaster]

WOW!!! You guys have a lot of good points here. Maybe it is time to cash it in. I have been chewing copenhagen for like 26 years. I just don't want to snap on my kids. I have 4 children two boys 10 and 9 as well as 2 girls 6 and 2. Like I said I do have a mean streak at times. The thing is if I am going to get healthy I might as well chuck it. I might check out that one site and see how it goes. I used the twelve steps to kick other habits. I don't want to get into my whole story here. I suppose since it has been on my mind I better start the discipline. Thanks bros.

http://whyquit.com/