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First cycle questions

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Done my research and this is what I'm goin to try for my first cycle

Test E - 250 per week
EQ - 400 per week
HCG - 2500 2x/week

That's in addition to the 10iu gh 3x/week PWO which I will bump up to 15ius

Comments and suggestions appreciated
 
Done my research and this is what I'm goin to try for my first cycle

Test E - 250 per week
EQ - 400 per week
HCG - 2500 2x/week

That's in addition to the 10iu gh 3x/week PWO which I will bump up to 15ius

Comments and suggestions appreciated


Hey bro,

can you do all of us a favor and post your stats, training experience, current diet, and where you want to get. ie. mass, strength, endurance... I feel and i think most others would agree, that you should pick 1 aspect of your training and smash at it until you reach your desired goal. It's going to be harder on you to do 2 or more, although it can be done.


DLine
 
Regardless to your stats,i would do this:
weeks 1-4:test enth 250mg./week
weeks 1-14:400-600mgs. of eq/week
weeks 5-12:test enth 500mgs./week
weeks 13-14:taper both test/eq -GRADUALLY.
AS FAR AS HCG: weeks 6-10 250iu's(every 3rd day)
weeks 14-16 500-1000iu's every 3rd. day.
GH LOOKS GREAT!(take until you are in your late 80's....lol.
 
Regardless to your stats,i would do this:
weeks 1-4:test enth 250mg./week
weeks 1-14:400-600mgs. of eq/week
weeks 5-12:test enth 500mgs./week
weeks 13-14:taper both test/eq -GRADUALLY.
AS FAR AS HCG: weeks 6-10 250iu's(every 3rd day)
weeks 14-16 500-1000iu's every 3rd. day.
GH LOOKS GREAT!(take until you are in your late 80's....lol.



I wouldn't recommend what muscledoc1 said for a couple reasons.

1. It's your first cycle. If you know how to eat correctly then you will grow off of test E 500mg/wk for 10 weeks, easily.

2. We do need to know your stats, experience, and current diet if we're going to help you.

3. I dont see the point of starting 250mg/wk of test E for 4 weeks. His natural test will shutdown due to exogenous test being delivered into his body. My opinion would be to run 500mg throughout the entire cycle.

4. Drop the EQ for your first run see how test works with your body. Everyone's body is different.

5. PCT during cycle should be arimidex, aromasin, or AIFM. Pick one. I use AIFM and never felt the need to try arimidex or aromasin, although they do work. Save the HCG for 2 - 3 wks after cycle. Use 500iu's for 7 days to bring volume back to your testes. At that same time i would run Clomid @ 50mg for 14 - 21 days to restore you HTPA and get yourself back to producing your own test again.

6. HGH again i'd like to hear your goals and stats first.


I would rather you choose this because you are using less and getting results. Remember using more AAS doesn't always means more gains. Another thign to remember is if this dose works now what are you gonna have to do later down the road when the gains arent that great anymore? Add more. wouldn't you rather add a tiny bit more to get gains than have to double your dose? I'm looking at it in a longterm and health conscious perspective. Why? Cuz nobody is gonna make it to where they wanna be in this game unless they are consistent. The magic isn't in the vial. the magic is in the food that you eat, in the intensity that you train with, and the quality of sleep you get on a daily basis. AAS is just icing on the cake.



DLine
 
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Regardless to your stats,i would do this:
weeks 1-4:test enth 250mg./week
weeks 1-14:400-600mgs. of eq/week
weeks 5-12:test enth 500mgs./week
weeks 13-14:taper both test/eq -GRADUALLY.
AS FAR AS HCG: weeks 6-10 250iu's(every 3rd day)
weeks 14-16 500-1000iu's every 3rd. day.
GH LOOKS GREAT!(take until you are in your late 80's....lol.

Why not until my early 100's??
 
I wouldn't recommend what muscledoc1 said for a couple reasons.

1. It's your first cycle. If you know how to eat correctly then you will grow off of test E 500mg/wk for 10 weeks, easily.
2. We do need to know your stats, experience, and current diet if we're going to help you.

3. I dont see the point of starting 250mg/wk of test E for 4 weeks. His natural test will shutdown due to exogenous test being delivered into his body. My opinion would be to run 500mg throughout the entire cycle.

4. Drop the EQ for your first run see how test works with your body. Everyone's body is different.

5. PCT during cycle should be arimidex, aromasin, or AIFM. Pick one. I use AIFM and never felt the need to try arimidex or aromasin, although they do work. Save the HCG for 2 - 3 wks after cycle. Use 500iu's for 7 days to bring volume back to your testes. At that same time i would run Clomid @ 50mg for 14 - 21 days to restore you HTPA and get yourself back to producing your own test again.

6. HGH again i'd like to hear your goals and stats first.


I would rather you choose this because you are using less and getting results. Remember using more AAS doesn't always means more gains. Another thign to remember is if this dose works now what are you gonna have to do later down the road when the gains arent that great anymore? Add more. wouldn't you rather add a tiny bit more to get gains than have to double your dose? I'm looking at it in a longterm and health conscious perspective. Why? Cuz nobody is gonna make it to where they wanna be in this game unless they are consistent. The magic isn't in the vial. the magic is in the food that you eat, in the intensity that you train with, and the quality of sleep you get on a daily basis. AAS is just icing on the cake.



DLine

DLine

VERY NICE POST. great job
 
My first cycle was:

1-5wks durabolin 200mg/2x wk
5-10wks durabolin 100mg/2xwk
1-5wks anadrol 50mg/ed
5-10wks aratest 250mg/2x wk

Gained like 25-30lbs
 
Done my research and this is what I'm goin to try for my first cycle

Test E - 250 per week
EQ - 400 per week
HCG - 2500 2x/week

That's in addition to the 10iu gh 3x/week PWO which I will bump up to 15ius

Comments and suggestions appreciated

Do this:

1-12 250mg test e.
Clomid PCT.

No hcg and no gh.

Good luck.
 
I haven't encountered the term AIFM?

Arimidex 0.5 every other day worked great for me during first cycle. My pct needs work though - just nolva 20 for 30 days. sides got out of control. so curious what AIFM is. I'm familiar with adex, aromasin, and letro
 
I haven't encountered the term AIFM?

Arimidex 0.5 every other day worked great for me during first cycle. My pct needs work though - just nolva 20 for 30 days. sides got out of control. so curious what AIFM is. I'm familiar with adex, aromasin, and letro

AIFM is an anti-E from Anafit (www.theafstore.com). It's a transdermal product that is used during a cycle, in PCT, and off cycle. From my personal experience with it, i like it. I haven't found a reason to use arimidex or aromasin. AIFM does not help with issues related to deca and tren. For help in regards to prolactin and progesteron use cabaser, bromo, letro...


DLine
 

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