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Gil Kerlikowske/new drug czar understands?

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Heard new drug czar speak about AAS....u'll be surprised of his views.

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I was at a luncheon where Gil Kerlikowske the new drug czar spoke. The quote on the screen behind him was from the former Seattle Police Chief:

"We've spent a trillion dollars prosecuting the war on drugs," "What do we have to show for it? Drugs are more readily available, at lower prices and higher levels of potency. It's a dismal failure."

Then in a few minutes Kerlikowske got up and spoke. He spoke to the DC urban league which is mainly an african american audience. So he did speak to the disparity in sentencing of minorities to whites even though drug use is the same across ethnic boundaries. that was just a small bit of the talk.

He did talk about arresting a body builder/power lifter for AAS who was a model citizen when he was in law enforcement. He listed off a number of things the guy did for the community. In fact other than lifting, he gave his life to the disadvantaged. He said as they raided his house the got testosterone and a bunch of healthy food....lol

Kerlikowske talked about the strong armed tactics used to put aas on the controlled substance list even though the DEA and FDA where vehemently against it. He sited a study that showed the average aas users does not participate in sports, has a college education and has no prior felony convictions...in his words "good guys". he said if sports wants to get rid of aas in sports they should do so but it should not be at the cost of a accountant who wants to add a few pounds or a police officer who would like to get a little stronger.

He will be pushing the decriminalization of most drugs and concentrate on violent crimes not drug use. Senator Webb will also be pushing the agenda. If you have a thug that hurts folks put the bastard in prison and throw a way the key.

He said drugs do destroy families and neighborhoods but treatment needs to be pushed. Prisons is a cottage industry that has been seen as a revenue stream. The US imprisons more of its population than any other country and most for non violent drug offenses. it cost an average of 40,000 dollars to incarcerate a person and that money should be used for better things.

What I found interesting is he really hit hard on AAS. Lets see what happens over the next few yrs.

At the end of the talk a person asked about Bidens push for crimilization of AAS.....Kerlikowske said I do not report to Biden I have the President's ear and we are on the same page.

The last question was again about aas, and older guy asked about "a bunch of juiced up roid raged guys". Kerlikowske said roid rage is a myth, there are as many studies that show a calming affect as a aggressive affect...

I left there with hope....maybe we will get it??????
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Your thoughts folks????
 
a little salvation for us

great post !

what dept is he from?
 
Kerlikowske is trying to work out the same situation here that has worked well in the Portugal and Switzerland experiments of legalizing drugs were deemed successful. Mexico even legalized a small amount of drug possession, in order to hopefully curb the Mexican cartel violence.

Kerlikowske says the demand for the drugs has to be reduced… something which he should know would never happen. Unless drugs were to be made legal, which would take away the currency to the cartels and slowly choke the life out of them. And hopefully he will see that spending the millions of dollars on steroids busts can be put to better use simply by allowing those that want to use do so but in a "personal use" amount or form.
 
wnat to know something freaky my girlfriends sister woke up and took a walk a few days ago in ensenada and came across a weird metal type cylinder barrel thing in the street near the city hall


Turns out it was a disentigrated narcotraficante inside a vat of acid
 
EEEEEEWWWHHHHHHH!
 
Fuckin Sweet! Finally someone in gov't without his head up his ass. I guess we can thank Obama for appointing this new czar?
 
Kerlikowske is trying to work out the same situation here that has worked well in the Portugal and Switzerland experiments of legalizing drugs were deemed successful. Mexico even legalized a small amount of drug possession, in order to hopefully curb the Mexican cartel violence.

Kerlikowske says the demand for the drugs has to be reduced… something which he should know would never happen. Unless drugs were to be made legal, which would take away the currency to the cartels and slowly choke the life out of them. And hopefully he will see that spending the millions of dollars on steroids busts can be put to better use simply by allowing those that want to use do so but in a "personal use" amount or form.

I agree with this. In Mexico steroids are legal and they just don't have the mystique that they have here.

Nobody cares, you either take them or you don't. Those who don't do it out of personal choice to wait until they reach their full natural potential, then step on the gas. A lot try them then quit. It's no big deal. There is certainly not a "problem" in high schools.
 
Fuckin Sweet! Finally someone in gov't without his head up his ass. I guess we can thank Obama for appointing this new czar?

UUUHHHH yes and no, Yes because he did in fact appoint him to the post, and NO because the man has his priorities straight. He knows what drug wars can be won and which can't be. Which should have federal money attatched to them and which SHOULDN'T. The man came into the office with a impressive set of credentials. Ones wich he has accrued over many years.

SO, if folks want to give Obama a gold sticker for this, then I can't argue with folks! :D

I wonder if he (the czar) will ask for Ron Pauls help? hmmmm?? Wouldn't that be sweet!
 
it is exciting to read but before we go nuts id say to procede with caution. This guy, if he really wants to pull this off, is going to have to undo years of conditioning done to the public. This is going to be no easy taks. i asked a grad student that works for me to find one legitimate study showing that steroids will give you long term health problems when used responsibly. this person could not produce one. However even reading information over and over that was opposite of their view of steroids that persons responce was still. theyre still going to kill you if you take them. people have been so conditioned to believe a made up vilification of steroids, the mob will take up pitchforks, so to speak, to stop him.
 
He was chief of police in Seattle before being appointed.
 
A-FRICKIN- MEN.. ANYONE ELSE GET JUST A GLIMMER OF HOPE THAT REALITY MAY BE UPON US????
 
LATS I was getting ready to say the same thing.. It sounds like this guy thinks for himself without letting the pointy heads dictate how he views things.. It will be hard for him to pull this off, but I hope he does it... Anyway, we can always hope.. Heck of alot better outlook than before..
 
Goosebumps I have. Hope has arrived. Maybe it will go somewhere maybe it wont, anyway its nice to have someone with a sane opinion in the public eye.
 
Wow, they appointed somebody with a brain as the drug czar. Wow ...

Yes, Give Obama his just due for being a world class dumb ass! When he had no F@CKING clue about foreign relations he went and got Joe Biden who was a long-time member and former chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Even though rumors have it that Biden was no where near the top of his picks for V.P. But did it because he was very weak in this field.

Now he knows even less about world issues dealing with drugs and their policies he (behind the scenes) left it up to BIDEN to help select the new drug czar. It's just the fact that Obama takes the credit for it. But if you read in this matter you'll see it was Biden who picked him. Wich in itslef is a good and bad thing. But that's another story for another day. :D

what I would really like to see is Gil bring on someone like Ron Paul for advisement purposes. Now that would be a great WOW! lol
 

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