- Oct 6, 2007
dont expect too much of an increase in just 5 weeks, especially since your EF is only slightly/moderatly decreased.Thanks. Just placed an order for some. Echo scheduled for tomorrow morning. Both nervous and hopeful. Hoping I made some EF gains in the last 5 weeks.
It will be a different doc with a different techniquedont expect too much of an increase in just 5 weeks, especially since your EF is only slightly/moderatly decreased.
Not that you have wrong expactions and are disappointed afterwards.
4-5% measured from the same doc on the same device is already a success.
and keep going!
From my experience, the estimate can be off by 5% or so between just different doctors interpreting the same echo or nuclear scan. Comparing the 2 methods didn't introduce as much variability.It will be a different doc with a different technique
5 weeks ago I did the nuclear scan at the hospital which gave me and EF of between 38-42%
Tomorrow will be an echo at a different clinic.
Yah. I have seen people here and elsewhere make gains in their EF within 5-6 weeks. So I think its possible.From my experience, the estimate can be off by 5% or so between just different doctors interpreting the same echo or nuclear scan. Comparing the 2 methods didn't introduce as much variability.
It might be possible if there were drugs in a person that were greatly affecting the heart and they were removed. I really wouldn't expect much in 5 to 6 weeks.Yah. I have seen people here and elsewhere make gains in their EF within 5-6 weeks. So I think its possible.
It might be possible if there were drugs in a person that were greatly affecting the heart and they were removed. I really wouldn't expect much in 5 to 6 weeks.
What I was saying in my previous post is that its not out of the ordinary to have two doctors look at your echocardiogram and give you #s that are off by 5%. I'm not exactly sure how ef is calculated, but it's not an exact science. It's more of an estimate.
[email protected] mentioned having the same doctor do each reading. That's the best situation. If the number is higher then you can be more sure that your heart got better. Even then it could be off a bit. If it's up 10% or more than that's outside the margin of error and a definite increase. I'd say 5% is margin or error. I'd not get too excited about that.
Coming up with your ejection fraction is not like measuring your blood pressure.
Ask your physician about it. He can explain it better than me.Heart function including ejection fraction (EF) is important in clinical practice because it is related to prognosis. Whether the patient suffers from valvular heart disease or ischemic heart disease, a measure of heart function including ejection fraction (EF) can predict future clinical...myheart.net
seems to be a fairly exact way to measure EF.
Yeah need to see a cardiologist still. Its just been my primary care doc that has ordered the tests and whoever is on the other side interpreting the results. So for the nuclear scan it was a random cardiologist that works at the hospital.Not long ago I had an echo done after my ventricular tachycardia surgery. The initial report said my EF was between 20 and 25%. My doctor looked at it and told me that it's below 20%. Same test. I know my heart is worse now after the surgery because I feel like shit now. So it's under 20.
I've been living this since 2008, nearly 13 years now. It's not uncommon for me to have such results. I've talked with my cardiologists about this because I was concerned.
It's best to have the exact same doctor do your readings from the report. If your number goes up 5% but different doctors did the estimate, I'd not be too excited.
ok. A random person has given me results, like in my last reading, and my cardiologist will calculate a different ejection fraction. I trust mine the most, and you can be assured that he/she is giving it the utmost attention because you are their patient. You can get back the results from your new echo and then have your own cardiologist look at it and give his/her own opinion on the ejection fraction etc.Yeah need to see a cardiologist still. Its just been my primary care doc that has ordered the tests and whoever is on the other side interpreting the results. So for the nuclear scan it was a random cardiologist that works at the hospital.
Good news boys. Got my echo results back.
every part of my heart is normal in size including the LV. Wall motion is normal. My ejection fraction is now measured at 53% a big improvement in roughly 7 weeks from 42%
That’s awesome to hear bro.. Glad for you everything worked out..
Did they give any reason as to what could’ve caused that??
Do you mind saying how much AAS you were using? I know you said you were never using crazy doses but “crazy” is person dependent, to me crazy might be 2g a week and to you it might be 6g a week lol... Just curious..
Also what was your bodyweight and height? I know you said 230ish but how tall are you?
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Thanks. My main goal is to help others so they can learn from my experiences. Hopefully I can help some to avoid unnecessary health problems and suffering.maldorf is one of the best guys you will ever come across on this forum
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